转向使用新网络的想法？ [英] Moving to new form of usenet ideas?
问题描述
很抱歉所有的交叉发布，但我很有兴趣得到一个严肃的
讨论最近如何使用usenet。
很多人都是因为所有的垃圾邮件和厨师已经出现了，所以要远离usenet。垃圾邮件发送者的速度似乎正在以指数方式增长
（好吧，不是真的，但感觉就像它）。
我想也许是时候做点什么了它。我希望看到什么发生
是一个升级。使用网。我不喜欢基于论坛的交流，这些交流最近如雨后春笋般涌现，但由于它解决了许多usenet的缺点，我相信这将会接管。
如果很多人都有同样的感觉，那么我们可以继续使用更好的东西，并提高usenet意味着的效率和生产力
$。
我的一些想法是：
1.库克驱蚊剂 - 防止厨师中断正常的一些方法
流量。无论是投票方案还是某种类型的识别方式，要么完全取消它们，要么至少使它们更容易避免它们。
2.垃圾邮件驱虫剂 - 与Cooks类似。
3.元数据 - 能够直接将图形和诸如
TeX之类的内容包含在消息中。对于那些不想查看它的人，他们可以禁用它
或者有其他方法来查看它。
4.针对团体的特定工具 - 不同团体对
沟通有不同的需求。数学小组需要有效地沟通
数学公式，而电子学需要交流原理图。
5.审核 - 可能给小组的常规用户提供
准中等或者一般来说只是有很多选项可以让你更多地控制团体（但不是很多）。
6.非异常或一些减缓垃圾邮件发送者的方法。也许更好的路由
数据等。
7.潜在的向后兼容使用usenet - 能够使用同一个客户端浏览
usenet，以帮助实现更顺畅的过渡。
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无论如何，这是非常初步的，只是一些想法。看来
usenet已经开始流失了。希望那里有那些有兴趣保持活着的人。我正在考虑的事情非常类似于usenet，但只有更多的功能。
如果有足够多的人有兴趣这样做那么也许我们可以把
放在一起。欢迎提出所有想法和建议。
谢谢，
Jon
Sorry for all the cross posting but I''m interesting in getting a serious
discussion about how usenet has become lately.
Many people are moving away from usenet because of all the spam and cooks
that have been showing up. The rate of spammer seem to be growing
exponentially(ok, not really but it feels like it).
I think maybe its time to do something about it. What I''d like to see happen
is an "upgrade" to usenet. I do not like th forum based communiations that
has sprung up lately but since it solves many of usenet''s shortcommings I
believe that will will take over.
If many people feel the same way then maybe we can move on to something
better and increase the efficiency and productivity that usenet was meant
for.
Some ideas I have are:
1. Cook repellent - Some method to prevent cooks from interrupting normal
flow. Either having a voting scheme or some type of identifying means to
either completely remove them or at least make it easier to avoid them.
2. Spam repellent - Similar to Cooks.
3. Meta data - Have the ability to directly include graphics and things like
TeX into messages. For those that do not want to view it they can disable it
or have some other means to see it.
4. Specific tools for groups - Different groups have different needs for
communication. Mathematics groups need to efficiently communicate
mathematical formulas while electronics need to communicate schematics.
5. Moderation - Potentially give regular users of the group the ability to
"quasi-moderate" or in general just have a wide range of options to have
more control over groups(But not to much).
6. Non-anomality or some way to slow down spammers. Maybe better routing
data and such.
7. Potentially "Backwards compatible" with usenet - have the ability to surf
usenet with the same client to help make a smoother transition.
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In any case this is extremely preliminary and just some thoughts. It seems
that usenet has started to go down the drain. Hopefully there are those out
there that are interested in keeping it alive. I''m thinking something very
similar to usenet but with just more "features".
If enough people are interested in doing this then maybe we can put
something together. All ideas and suggestions are welcome.
Thanks,
Jon
推荐答案
10月8日下午3:13，Jon Slaughter < Jon_Slaugh ... @ Hotmail.comwrote：
On Oct 8, 3:13 pm, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.comwrote:
对于所有的交叉发布很抱歉，但我很有兴趣得到一个严肃的
$ b $关于usenet如何成为最近的讨论。
Sorry for all the cross posting but I''m interesting in getting a serious
discussion about how usenet has become lately.
Usenet是usenet。你想要的是一个讨论论坛。有足够的
很多
可自由使用，你可以修改以满足你的
需求。
请不要交叉发布到不相关的新闻组，并了解
你目前是这个垃圾邮件的一部分。类别。是时候使用这个
垃圾邮件驱逐了关于你自己。
Jonathan
Usenet is usenet. What you want is a discussion forum. There are
plenty
of implementations available freely that you may modify to suit your
needs.
Please, don''t cross-post to unrelated newsgroups and understand that
you are currently part of this "spam" category. Time to use this
"spam-repellent" on yourself.
Jonathan
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10月8日下午3:13，Jon Slaughter < Jon_Slaugh ... @ Hotmail.comwrote：
On Oct 8, 3:13 pm, "Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.comwrote:
>抱歉所有的交叉发布，但我很有兴趣进行严肃的讨论关于usenet如何变得最近。
>Sorry for all the cross posting but I''m interesting in getting a serious
discussion about how usenet has become lately.
Usenet是usenet。你想要的是一个讨论论坛。有足够的
很多
可自由使用，你可以修改以满足你的
需求。
Usenet is usenet. What you want is a discussion forum. There are
plenty
of implementations available freely that you may modify to suit your
needs.
我正在试图看看社区是否有兴趣进入一些更好的东西
。
I''m trying to see if the community is interested in moving into something
better.
请，不要交叉发布到不相关的新闻组，并了解
你目前是这个垃圾邮件的一部分。类别。是时候使用这个
垃圾邮件驱逐了在你自己。
Please, don''t cross-post to unrelated newsgroups and understand that
you are currently part of this "spam" category. Time to use this
"spam-repellent" on yourself.
嗯...但你可以这样做吗？我知道有人会说这样的话，但我觉得你宁愿我单独发帖给每个小组？
幸运的是我发布的内容和垃圾邮件。我不会将b
一般发布到多个群组，而且我没有发布无关的消息或试图销售产品或浪费人们的时间。我要问的是
与所有使用usenet的人有关。这是一个严肃的问题请
回答一个严肃的答案。
如果你讨厌交叉发帖那么，那么请不要自己动手。 ......它
让你看起来像一个伪君子。
Hmm... But yet its ok for you to do it? I knew someone would say such a
thing but I guess you rather me post individually to each group?
Fortunately there is a difference between what I posted and spam. I do not
in general post to multiple groups and I am not posting an irrelevant
message or trying to sell a product or waste peoples time. What I am asking
is relevant to all those that use usenet. It is a serious question please
respond with a serious answer.
And hell, if you hate cross posting then please don''t do it yourself.... it
makes you look like a hypocrit.
幸运的是，我发布的内容和垃圾邮件之间存在差异。我做
Fortunately there is a difference between what I posted and spam. I do
一般不发布到多个群组，我没有发布无关的
消息或试图出售产品或浪费人民时间。我是什么
问与所有使用usenet的人有关。这是一个严肃的问题
请回复一个认真的答案。
not in general post to multiple groups and I am not posting an irrelevant
message or trying to sell a product or waste peoples time. What I am
asking is relevant to all those that use usenet. It is a serious question
please respond with a serious answer.
不要误解我的意思。也许我是这里唯一关心的人，也许
我浪费了每个人的时间......但与剩下的其他垃圾邮件相比，我有机会获得机会。我愿意接受。
Don''t get me wrong though. Maybe I am the only one concerned here and maybe
I am wasting everyone''s time... but compared to rest of the spam thats a
chance I''m willing to take.
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