处理营销类型...... [英] Dealing with marketing types...
问题描述
一个小型软件团队（开发人员，销售人员甚至经理，当他有时间）时，已经使用（wx）Python / PostgreSQL超过2年了
开发了一个成功的1.0版客户端/服务器产品。
营销/产品经理带来了额外的管理和
架构专家建议将整个事情移到Java
（应用服务器）平台，以便下一个版本。他们想要一个可扩展的企业解决方案。 （虽然他们真的不知道这是什么意思）并且疯狂地抛出Java流行语（而不是提到XML）。
开发人员（包括我自己）越来越不安;管理层继续推动他们的要求并忽视工程师。我认为
仍然有希望，但除了指出Python和Zope的成功故事以及<之间的语言比较之外，我不知道其他想法。 br />
Python和Java。
Python社区中有哪些经验在这些类型中？
的情况？
A small software team (developers, leads and even the manager when he''s
had time) has been using (wx)Python/PostgreSQL for over 2 years and
developed a successful 1.0 release of a client/server product.
A marketing/product manager has brought in additional management and
"architecture" experts to propose moving the entire thing to a Java
(application server) platform for the next release. They want a
"scalable, enterprise solution" (though they don''t really know what that
means) and are going crazy throwing around the Java buzzwords (not to
mention XML).
The developers (including myself) are growing uneasy; the management is
continuing to push their requirements and ignore the engineers. I think
there''s still hope, but I''m at a loss for ideas beyond pointing out the
success stories of Python and Zope and language comparisons between
Python and Java.
What experiences have those in the Python community had in these kinds
of situations?
推荐答案
flyingfred0写道：
flyingfred0 wrote:
一个小型软件团队（开发人员，潜在客户甚至是经理，当他
有时间）已经使用（wx）Python / PostgreSQL超过2年了
开发了一个成功的1.0版本的客户端/服务器产品。
营销/产品经理有引入了额外的管理和架构专家建议将整个事情移植到Java
（应用服务器）平台以供下一个版本使用。他们想要一个可扩展的企业解决方案。 （虽然他们真的不知道这意味着什么）并且疯狂地抛出Java流行语（而不是提及XML）。
A small software team (developers, leads and even the manager when he''s
had time) has been using (wx)Python/PostgreSQL for over 2 years and
developed a successful 1.0 release of a client/server product.
A marketing/product manager has brought in additional management and
"architecture" experts to propose moving the entire thing to a Java
(application server) platform for the next release. They want a
"scalable, enterprise solution" (though they don''t really know what
that means) and are going crazy throwing around the Java buzzwords (not to
mention XML).
营销需要一个引人注目的故事告诉客户：为什么_this_技术？ Java和XML是便宜的流行词（但不再留下太多的嗡嗡声！）他们需要的是一个故事，而不是一堆流行语，但这个故事需要适应客户的世界观，它需要对客户意味着什么。
Python / PostgreSQL可能是一种技术组合，代表了一个成功的故事，至少在正确的市场中。可能开发团队在技术上比营销人员更精明;-)，所以尽量轻轻地帮助他们理解为什么Python / PostgreSQL的故事很强大。
更快的增量开发（" ;客户，不再像您使用Java应用程序那样等待您想要的新功能.Ou开发快速且敏捷，就像您的要求一样！）可能是那种有助于您的事业的视角。给营销人员故事从市场营销的角度来看当前的产品实现是好的 - 如何（wx）Python / PostgreSQL使产品独特，明显，比其他Java / XML客户端服务器应用程序更容易销售。
我认为这是你能做的最好的事情。
祝你好运！
Eric
（Psuedo-营销型）
Marketing needs a compelling story to tell the customer: why _this_ technology? Java and XML are cheap buzz words to throw around (but not too much buzz left anymore!) What they need is a story, not a bunch of buzz words, but that story needs to fit into the customers'' world view, it needs to meansomething to the customer.
It''s possible that Python/PostgreSQL is a technology combination that represents a winning story, at least in the right marketplaces. Possibly the development team is more technically savvy than the marketers ;-), so try to gently help them understand why the Python/PostgreSQL story is strong.
Faster incremental development of releases ("Customer, no long waits for the new features you want like you have with Java apps. Ou development is fast and agile like your requirements!") might be the kind of perspective that helps your cause. Give the marketing guys "stories" about why the current product implementation is good from a marketing perspective - how (wx)Python/PostgreSQL will make the product unique and noticeable and easier to sell than another Java/XML client server app.
I think that''s about the best you can do.
good luck!
Eric
(Psuedo-marketing-type)
flyingfred0写道：
flyingfred0 wrote:
一个小型软件团队（开发人员，销售人员，甚至是经理，当他'' s
有时间）已经使用（wx）Python / PostgreSQL超过2年并且
开发了一个成功的1.0版本的客户端/服务器产品。
营销/产品经理带来了额外的管理和架构。专家建议将整个事情移植到Java
（应用服务器）平台以供下一个版本使用。他们想要一个可扩展的企业解决方案。 （虽然他们真的不知道这意味着什么）并且疯狂地抛出Java流行语（而不是提及XML）。
开发人员（包括我自己） ）越来越不安;管理层继续推动他们的要求并忽视工程师。我认为
仍然有希望，但除了指出Python和Zope的成功故事以及Python和Java之间的语言比较之外，我对这些想法感到茫然。在这些情况下，Python社区有哪些经验？
A small software team (developers, leads and even the manager when he''s
had time) has been using (wx)Python/PostgreSQL for over 2 years and
developed a successful 1.0 release of a client/server product.
A marketing/product manager has brought in additional management and
"architecture" experts to propose moving the entire thing to a Java
(application server) platform for the next release. They want a
"scalable, enterprise solution" (though they don''t really know what that
means) and are going crazy throwing around the Java buzzwords (not to
mention XML).
The developers (including myself) are growing uneasy; the management is
continuing to push their requirements and ignore the engineers. I think
there''s still hope, but I''m at a loss for ideas beyond pointing out the
success stories of Python and Zope and language comparisons between
Python and Java.
What experiences have those in the Python community had in these kinds
of situations?
市场营销类型需要随波逐流。指出谷歌，ILM和美国国家航空航天局使用的谷歌是b $ b。
将麦圭根
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http://www.willmcgugan.com
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Marketing types need a bandwagon to jump on. Point out that Google is
used by Google, ILM and NASA.
Will McGugan
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请问McGugan写道：
Will McGugan wrote:
营销类型需要一个潮流来跳上。指出Google已被Google，ILM和NASA使用。
Marketing types need a bandwagon to jump on. Point out that Google is
used by Google, ILM and NASA.
当然是一个真实的陈述 - 但我有一种偷偷摸摸的怀疑
第一个google应该是python。
Diez
Certainly a true statement - but I''ve got the sneaky suspicion that the
first google was supposed to be python.
Diez
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