锁定Access数据库 [英] Locked out of Access database

问题描述

首先，简要说明为什么会这样。我购买了什么

我认为是去年用Access编写的一个功能齐全的程序

来自本地程序员。这个程序将被用作我的一个

在线DVD商店的POS。事实证明，程序员实际上给了我一个许可证。使用他的软件。这不是我们做出的协议，他知道这一点。他充分利用了我对软件知之甚少的事实，并让我相信我拥有了

计划。


大约4个月前，当登录我的数据库时，弹出一条消息

起来打电话给程序员进行更新。我打电话给他，当这个消息弹出时，他输入了一个7位数的数字。我输入它

并且进来了。这个消息大约一个月前再次出现，我输入了相同的数字，这让我进入了数据库。这个消息

一周前再次出现。我输入了相同的号码，但这一次

弹出另一条消息，说错误4，我被拒绝访问我的数据库

。


我的程序员和我正在讨论他为我的程序做的那些无效的

更新的计费纠纷。我打电话给他关于

这个错误4的消息，这是他告诉我的时候我实际上只有
有使用他的程序的许可。他继续说，直到我为前面提到的更新支付了

，他不会授予我访问我的

数据库的权限。我检查了他过去发的所有发票，但没有一个人提到我购买许可证的任何内容。第一张发票我支付了b $ b，这是我支付该计划的费用，用于支付数据库和培训费用。我向他指出了这一点，他说，他从未向我收取许可费。事实上，他从未向我收取过许可证，因为这绝不是我们协议的一部分。


我看不到他和我之间的协议任何时候在近期

的未来。我被锁在一个数据库中，我已经进入我的

股票近一年了。这对我的

业务造成了巨大的压力。


我对编程知之甚少，实际上什么都没有。我试图通过几个程序来恢复数据库。
最接近我的b
是通过一个名为

核内核访问的程序的试用版。我不是很了解这个程序，但是当我打开数据库时，我可以看到我的数据库信息（库存，

用户等）。


如果那里有人可以帮助我解决这个难题，我会非常感谢b $ b欣赏它。在此先感谢。


追逐

First, a brief explanation of why this has happened. I purchased, what
I thought, was a fully functional program written in Access last year
from a local programmer. This program was to be used as my POS for an
online DVD store. It turns out that what the programmer actually gave
me was a "license" to use his software. This was not the agreement we
made, and he knows this. He took advantage of the fact that I knew
very little about software, and led me to believe that I owned the
program.

About 4 months ago, when logging in to my database, a message popped
up saying to call the programmer for an update. I called and he have
me a 7 digit number to enter when this message pops up. I entered it
and got in. This message popped up again about a month ago and I
entered the same number, which got me into the database. This message
popped up again a week ago. I entered the same number, but this time
another message popped up, saying "err 4", and I was denied access to
my database.

My programmer and I are in the middle of a billing dispute over an
update he did for my program which didn''t work. I called him about
this err 4 message, and this is when he told me that I actually only
have a license to use his program. He went on to say that until I pay
for the update mentioned earlier, he would not grant me access into my
database. I checked all of my past invoices from him, and none of them
mention anything about my purchasing a license. The first invoice I
paid, which was when I paid for the program, is billed as being for
the database and training. I pointed this out to him, and he says that
he never charged me for the license. The fact is that he never charged
me for a license because that was never part of our agreement.

I do not see an agreement between he and I any time in the near
future. I am locked out of a database which I have been entering my
stock in for almost a year. This is putting a massive strain on my
business.

I know very little about programming, actually nothing. I have
attempted to recover the database through a couple of programs. The
closest I have come was through a trial version of a program called
Nuclear Kernel Access. I don''t really understand the program, but when
I open the database, I can see my database information (inventory,
users, etc).

If anyone out there could help me with this dilemma, I would greatly
appreciate it. Thanks, in advance.

chase

推荐答案

2007年5月12日星期六18 ：格林威治标准时间48:14，chaseexchange

< ch *********** @ yahoooooo.comwrote：


您可能需要更多律师的建议而不是程序员的建议。

在大多数司法管辖区，公司锁定你的*数据*是非法的。他们可以锁定你*申请*通常

访问该数据，例如，如果你不支付商定的年度许可费

。 br />

一个优秀的程序员应该能够快速编写临时程序，以便快速访问最重要的数据。那会给你一些

的时间来讨价还价原来协议的细节

a小额索赔法官，并且如果你不能来，我会对你的赌注进行套期保值。 />
一个协议。


-Tom。

On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:48:14 GMT, chaseexchange
<ch***********@yahoooooo.comwrote:

You probably need more the advice of a lawyer than of a programmer.
In most jurisdictions it is illegal for a company to lock you out of
your *data*. They can lock you out of the *application* that typically
accesses that data if for example you don''t pay the annual license fee
that was agreed upon.

A good programmer should be able to write a provisional program pretty
quickly to access your most important data. That would buy you some
time to haggle about the details of the original agreement in front of
a Small Claims judge, and hedges your bets in case you cannot come to
an agreement.

-Tom.

>首先，简要介绍解释为什么会发生这种情况。我购买了什么，我认为是去年用Access编写的一个功能齐全的程序来自本地程序员。该程序将用作我的在线DVD商店的POS。事实证明，程序员实际上给了我的是许可证。使用他的软件。这不是我们达成的协议，他知道这一点。他充分利用了我对软件知之甚少的事实，并让我相信我拥有了
程序。

大约4个月前，登录时我的数据库，弹出一条消息说要打电话给程序员进行更新。我打电话给他，当这个消息弹出时，他有一个7位数字输入。我进入它
然后进去。大约一个月前这个消息再次出现，我输入了相同的号码，这让我进入了数据库。这个消息
在一周前再次出现。我输入了相同的号码，但这次又弹出了另一条消息，说错误4，我被拒绝访问我的数据库。

我的程序员和我他正在为我的计划做的更新没有工作的计费纠纷正处于中间。我打电话给他这个错误的4条消息，这是他告诉我实际上我只有许可使用他的程序。他继续说，直到我为前面提到的更新付费，他才会允许我访问我的
数据库。我检查了他过去发的所有发票，但没有人提到我购买许可证的任何事情。我支付的第一张发票，即我支付该程序的费用，被称为数据库和培训。我向他指出了这一点，他说，他从来没有向我收取许可费。事实上，他从来没有向我收取许可证，因为这从来都不是我们协议的一部分。

我不认为他和我之间的任何时间都是在他附近的协议。 >未来。我被锁在一个数据库中，我已经进入我的库存了将近一年。这给我的业务带来了巨大的压力。

我对编程知之甚少，实际上什么都没有。我试图通过几个程序恢复数据库。我最接近的是通过一个名为
Nuclear Kernel Access的程序的试用版。我不是很了解这个程序，但是当我打开数据库时，我可以看到我的数据库信息（库存，
用户等）。

如果有人出来的话我可以帮助我解决这个难题，我会非常感激。在此先感谢。

追逐

>First, a brief explanation of why this has happened. I purchased, what
I thought, was a fully functional program written in Access last year
from a local programmer. This program was to be used as my POS for an
online DVD store. It turns out that what the programmer actually gave
me was a "license" to use his software. This was not the agreement we
made, and he knows this. He took advantage of the fact that I knew
very little about software, and led me to believe that I owned the
program.

About 4 months ago, when logging in to my database, a message popped
up saying to call the programmer for an update. I called and he have
me a 7 digit number to enter when this message pops up. I entered it
and got in. This message popped up again about a month ago and I
entered the same number, which got me into the database. This message
popped up again a week ago. I entered the same number, but this time
another message popped up, saying "err 4", and I was denied access to
my database.

My programmer and I are in the middle of a billing dispute over an
update he did for my program which didn''t work. I called him about
this err 4 message, and this is when he told me that I actually only
have a license to use his program. He went on to say that until I pay
for the update mentioned earlier, he would not grant me access into my
database. I checked all of my past invoices from him, and none of them
mention anything about my purchasing a license. The first invoice I
paid, which was when I paid for the program, is billed as being for
the database and training. I pointed this out to him, and he says that
he never charged me for the license. The fact is that he never charged
me for a license because that was never part of our agreement.

I do not see an agreement between he and I any time in the near
future. I am locked out of a database which I have been entering my
stock in for almost a year. This is putting a massive strain on my
business.

I know very little about programming, actually nothing. I have
attempted to recover the database through a couple of programs. The
closest I have come was through a trial version of a program called
Nuclear Kernel Access. I don''t really understand the program, but when
I open the database, I can see my database information (inventory,
users, etc).

If anyone out there could help me with this dilemma, I would greatly
appreciate it. Thanks, in advance.

chase

感谢您的回复，Tom。我意识到你可能不是一个

律师，但是因为你显然已经牢牢掌握了这些东西，

我不知道，我有一个问题。 />

基于以下事实：


1.我去年的原始发票，当时我以为我是

购买这个程序，没有说明我购买许可证

使用我的程序员的软件。它陈述了简单安全的数据库和

培训X金额。


2.在我们最近的电子邮件通信中，我的程序员告诉我

一封我没有购买该程序的邮件，只是一张使用他/她的软件的许可证。然后，在稍后的电子邮件中，他说我从未支付过许可证。我假设一个程序员不常见的事情

允许某人免费使用他们的软件，如果许可证是

获得使用程序员的软件，有一些

文件显示这个。


我从未支付过许可证，因为许可证从未成为我们的一部分

协议，书面形式，发票或口头形式。我的程序员完全意识到我认为我拥有该计划。他只是利用

我的无知。


我的问题是，从法律上讲，你认为上述事实会支持我的

边好吗？


感谢您的帮助。


追逐

2007年5月12日星期六13： 06:32 -0700，Tom van Stiphout

< no ************* @ cox.netwrote：

Thanks for your reply, Tom. I realize that you are probably not an
attorney, but since you obviously have a firm grasp on this stuff,
which I do not, I have a question.

Based on the following facts:

1. My original invoice from last year, which was when I thought I was
purchasing this program, states nothing about my purchasing a license
to use my programmer''s software. It states simply secure database and
training for X amount of dollars.

2. During our recent email communications, my programmer told me in
one mail that I did not purchase the program, just a license to use
his software. Then, in a later email, he states that I never paid for
a license. I''m assuming it''s not common practice for a programmer to
allow someone to use their software for free, and if a license is
obtained to use a programmer''s software, there is some sort of
documentation showing this.

I never paid for a license because a license was never part of our
agreement, in writing, invoiced or verbally. My programmer was fully
aware that I thought I owned the program. He simply took advantage of
my ignorance.

My question is, legally, do you think the above facts would support my
side well?

Thanks for your help.

chase
On Sat, 12 May 2007 13:06:32 -0700, Tom van Stiphout
<no*************@cox.netwrote:

> 2007年5月12日星期六18:48:14 GMT，chaseexchange
< ch *********** @ yahoooooo.comwrote：
您可能需要更多律师的建议，而不是程序员。
在大多数司法管辖区，公司将您锁定在您的*数据*中是违法的。他们可以锁定你通常访问该数据的*应用程序*，例如，如果你不支付商定的年度许可费

优秀的程序员应该能够快速编写一个临时程序来快速访问您最重要的数据。这会让你有时间在小额索偿法官面前讨论原始协议的细节，并在你无法达成协议的情况下对冲你的赌注。 />
-Tom。

>On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:48:14 GMT, chaseexchange
<ch***********@yahoooooo.comwrote:

You probably need more the advice of a lawyer than of a programmer.
In most jurisdictions it is illegal for a company to lock you out of
your *data*. They can lock you out of the *application* that typically
accesses that data if for example you don''t pay the annual license fee
that was agreed upon.

A good programmer should be able to write a provisional program pretty
quickly to access your most important data. That would buy you some
time to haggle about the details of the original agreement in front of
a Small Claims judge, and hedges your bets in case you cannot come to
an agreement.

-Tom.

>>首先，简要说明为什么会发生这种情况。我购买了什么，我认为是去年用Access编写的一个功能齐全的程序来自本地程序员。该程序将用作我的在线DVD商店的POS。事实证明，程序员实际上给了我的是许可证。使用他的软件。这不是我们达成的协议，他知道这一点。他充分利用了我对软件知之甚少的事实，并让我相信我拥有了
程序。

大约4个月前，登录时我的数据库，弹出一条消息说要打电话给程序员进行更新。我打电话给他，当这个消息弹出时，他有一个7位数字输入。我进入它
然后进去。大约一个月前这个消息再次出现，我输入了相同的号码，这让我进入了数据库。这个消息
在一周前再次出现。我输入了相同的号码，但这次又弹出了另一条消息，说错误4，我被拒绝访问我的数据库。

我的程序员和我他正在为我的计划做的更新没有工作的计费纠纷正处于中间。我打电话给他这个错误的4条消息，这是他告诉我实际上我只有许可使用他的程序。他继续说，直到我为前面提到的更新付费，他才会允许我访问我的
数据库。我检查了他过去发的所有发票，但没有人提到我购买许可证的任何事情。我支付的第一张发票，即我支付该程序的费用，被称为数据库和培训。我向他指出了这一点，他说，他从来没有向我收取许可费。事实上，他从来没有向我收取许可证，因为这从来都不是我们协议的一部分。

我不认为他和我之间的任何时间都是在他附近的协议。 >未来。我被锁在一个数据库中，我已经进入我的库存了将近一年。这给我的业务带来了巨大的压力。

我对编程知之甚少，实际上什么都没有。我试图通过几个程序恢复数据库。我最接近的是通过一个名为
Nuclear Kernel Access的程序的试用版。我不是很了解这个程序，但是当我打开数据库时，我可以看到我的数据库信息（库存，
用户等）。

如果有人出来的话我可以帮助我解决这个难题，我会非常感激。提前谢谢。

追逐

>>First, a brief explanation of why this has happened. I purchased, what
I thought, was a fully functional program written in Access last year
from a local programmer. This program was to be used as my POS for an
online DVD store. It turns out that what the programmer actually gave
me was a "license" to use his software. This was not the agreement we
made, and he knows this. He took advantage of the fact that I knew
very little about software, and led me to believe that I owned the
program.

About 4 months ago, when logging in to my database, a message popped
up saying to call the programmer for an update. I called and he have
me a 7 digit number to enter when this message pops up. I entered it
and got in. This message popped up again about a month ago and I
entered the same number, which got me into the database. This message
popped up again a week ago. I entered the same number, but this time
another message popped up, saying "err 4", and I was denied access to
my database.

My programmer and I are in the middle of a billing dispute over an
update he did for my program which didn''t work. I called him about
this err 4 message, and this is when he told me that I actually only
have a license to use his program. He went on to say that until I pay
for the update mentioned earlier, he would not grant me access into my
database. I checked all of my past invoices from him, and none of them
mention anything about my purchasing a license. The first invoice I
paid, which was when I paid for the program, is billed as being for
the database and training. I pointed this out to him, and he says that
he never charged me for the license. The fact is that he never charged
me for a license because that was never part of our agreement.

I do not see an agreement between he and I any time in the near
future. I am locked out of a database which I have been entering my
stock in for almost a year. This is putting a massive strain on my
business.

I know very little about programming, actually nothing. I have
attempted to recover the database through a couple of programs. The
closest I have come was through a trial version of a program called
Nuclear Kernel Access. I don''t really understand the program, but when
I open the database, I can see my database information (inventory,
users, etc).

If anyone out there could help me with this dilemma, I would greatly
appreciate it. Thanks, in advance.

chase

2007年5月12日星期六20:42:50 GMT， chaseexchange

< ch *********** @ yahoooooo.comwrote：


是的他们这样做，但我的妈妈每次都给我打气冲突有两面:-)

原始发票之前可能还有一些文件。

类似于工作说明，或者你雇用的合同

这个人为你编写这个程序。那些可能有关于许可情况的相关

信息。


即使你赢了，程序员可能仍然不想支持你。我们的

公司在小额索赔法庭上赢过几次，但我们从未见过

一角。


也许你可以有人为你调解。也许更好

商业局（我假设你居住在美国）？我确定你已经考虑过与程序员进行面对面的会面了。


-Tom。

On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:42:50 GMT, chaseexchange
<ch***********@yahoooooo.comwrote:

Yes they do, but my mom tought me every conflict has two sides :-)

There were probably some documents before the original invoice.
Something like a statement of work, or some contract where you hired
this individual to write this program for you. Those may have relevant
information about the licensing situation.

Even if you win, the programmer may still not want to support you. Our
company has won a few times in small claims court, but we never saw a
dime.

Perhaps you can have someone mediate for you. Perhaps the Better
Business Bureau (I''m assuming you reside in the USA)? I''m sure you
have already considered a face-to-face meeting with the programmer.

-Tom.

>感谢您的回复，汤姆。我意识到你可能不是律师，但是因为你显然已经牢牢掌握了这些东西，我没有，我有一个问题。

基于以下事实：

1。我去年的原始发票，当我以为我是购买这个程序的时候，没有说明我购买许可证
使用我的程序员的软件。它规定了简单安全的数据库和X美元的培训。

2。在我们最近的电子邮件通信中，我的程序员在一封邮件中告诉我，我没有购买该程序，只是使用他/她的软件的许可证。然后，在稍后的电子邮件中，他说我从未支付过许可证。我假设程序员通常不允许某人免费使用他们的软件，如果获得使用程序员软件的许可证，那么某种
文件显示了这一点。

我从未支付过许可证，因为许可证从未成为我们
协议的一部分，无论是书面形式，发票还是口头形式。我的程序员完全意识到我认为我拥有该程序。他只是利用了我的无知。

我的问题是，从法律上讲，你认为上述事实会很好地支持我的方面吗？

谢谢你的帮助。

追逐

2007年5月12日星期六13:06:32 -0700，Tom van Stiphout
< no **** *********@cox.netwrote：

>Thanks for your reply, Tom. I realize that you are probably not an
attorney, but since you obviously have a firm grasp on this stuff,
which I do not, I have a question.

Based on the following facts:

1. My original invoice from last year, which was when I thought I was
purchasing this program, states nothing about my purchasing a license
to use my programmer''s software. It states simply secure database and
training for X amount of dollars.

2. During our recent email communications, my programmer told me in
one mail that I did not purchase the program, just a license to use
his software. Then, in a later email, he states that I never paid for
a license. I''m assuming it''s not common practice for a programmer to
allow someone to use their software for free, and if a license is
obtained to use a programmer''s software, there is some sort of
documentation showing this.

I never paid for a license because a license was never part of our
agreement, in writing, invoiced or verbally. My programmer was fully
aware that I thought I owned the program. He simply took advantage of
my ignorance.

My question is, legally, do you think the above facts would support my
side well?

Thanks for your help.

chase
On Sat, 12 May 2007 13:06:32 -0700, Tom van Stiphout
<no*************@cox.netwrote:

>> 2007年5月12日星期六18:48:14 GMT，chaseexchange
<ch***********@yahoooooo.comwrote：

您可能需要更多律师的建议，而不是程序员。
在大多数司法管辖区公司锁定您的*数据*是违法的。他们可以锁定你通常访问该数据的*应用程序*，例如，如果你不支付商定的年度许可费

优秀的程序员应该能够快速编写一个临时程序来快速访问您最重要的数据。这会让你有时间在小额索偿法官面前讨论原始协议的细节，并在你无法达成协议的情况下对冲你的赌注。 />
-Tom。

>>On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:48:14 GMT, chaseexchange
<ch***********@yahoooooo.comwrote:

You probably need more the advice of a lawyer than of a programmer.
In most jurisdictions it is illegal for a company to lock you out of
your *data*. They can lock you out of the *application* that typically
accesses that data if for example you don''t pay the annual license fee
that was agreed upon.

A good programmer should be able to write a provisional program pretty
quickly to access your most important data. That would buy you some
time to haggle about the details of the original agreement in front of
a Small Claims judge, and hedges your bets in case you cannot come to
an agreement.

-Tom.

>>>首先，简要解释为什么会发生这种情况。我购买了什么，我认为是去年用Access编写的一个功能齐全的程序来自本地程序员。该程序将用作我的在线DVD商店的POS。事实证明，程序员实际上给了我的是许可证。使用他的软件。这不是我们达成的协议，他知道这一点。他充分利用了我对软件知之甚少的事实，并让我相信我拥有了
程序。

大约4个月前，登录时我的数据库，弹出一条消息说要打电话给程序员进行更新。我打电话给他，当这个消息弹出时，他有一个7位数字输入。我进入它
然后进去。大约一个月前这个消息再次出现，我输入了相同的号码，这让我进入了数据库。这个消息
在一周前再次出现。我输入了相同的号码，但这次又弹出了另一条消息，说错误4，我被拒绝访问我的数据库。

我的程序员和我他正在为我的计划做的更新没有工作的计费纠纷正处于中间。我打电话给他这个错误的4条消息，这是他告诉我实际上我只有许可使用他的程序。他继续说，直到我为前面提到的更新付费，他才会允许我访问我的
数据库。我检查了他过去发的所有发票，但没有人提到我购买许可证的任何事情。我支付的第一张发票，即我支付该程序的费用，被称为数据库和培训。我向他指出了这一点，他说，他从来没有向我收取许可费。事实上，他从来没有向我收取许可证，因为这从来都不是我们协议的一部分。

我不认为他和我之间的任何时间都是在他附近的协议。 >未来。我被锁在一个数据库中，我已经进入我的库存了将近一年。这给我的业务带来了巨大的压力。

我对编程知之甚少，实际上什么都没有。我试图通过几个程序恢复数据库。我最接近的是通过一个名为
Nuclear Kernel Access的程序的试用版。我不是很了解这个程序，但是当我打开数据库时，我可以看到我的数据库信息（库存，
用户等）。

如果有人出来的话我可以帮助我解决这个难题，我会非常感激。在此先感谢。

追逐

>>>First, a brief explanation of why this has happened. I purchased, what
I thought, was a fully functional program written in Access last year
from a local programmer. This program was to be used as my POS for an
online DVD store. It turns out that what the programmer actually gave
me was a "license" to use his software. This was not the agreement we
made, and he knows this. He took advantage of the fact that I knew
very little about software, and led me to believe that I owned the
program.

About 4 months ago, when logging in to my database, a message popped
up saying to call the programmer for an update. I called and he have
me a 7 digit number to enter when this message pops up. I entered it
and got in. This message popped up again about a month ago and I
entered the same number, which got me into the database. This message
popped up again a week ago. I entered the same number, but this time
another message popped up, saying "err 4", and I was denied access to
my database.

My programmer and I are in the middle of a billing dispute over an
update he did for my program which didn''t work. I called him about
this err 4 message, and this is when he told me that I actually only
have a license to use his program. He went on to say that until I pay
for the update mentioned earlier, he would not grant me access into my
database. I checked all of my past invoices from him, and none of them
mention anything about my purchasing a license. The first invoice I
paid, which was when I paid for the program, is billed as being for
the database and training. I pointed this out to him, and he says that
he never charged me for the license. The fact is that he never charged
me for a license because that was never part of our agreement.

I do not see an agreement between he and I any time in the near
future. I am locked out of a database which I have been entering my
stock in for almost a year. This is putting a massive strain on my
business.

I know very little about programming, actually nothing. I have
attempted to recover the database through a couple of programs. The
closest I have come was through a trial version of a program called
Nuclear Kernel Access. I don''t really understand the program, but when
I open the database, I can see my database information (inventory,
users, etc).

If anyone out there could help me with this dilemma, I would greatly
appreciate it. Thanks, in advance.

chase

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