我们的JS生活变得更糟:( [英] Our JS life just got a whole lot worse :(
问题描述
Apple推出了一款适用于Windows的网络浏览器Safari版本
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6742439.stm
好像Mac上存在Safari还不够糟糕，现在我们也必须在Windows上处理它:-（哦，欢乐，
我们有在Windows平台上也必须支持世界上最差的浏览器
的乐趣。
6月11日，晚上10:47，dd< dd4 ... @ gmail.comwrote：
" Apple推出了其网络浏览器Safari的一个版本for Windows
http ：//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6742439.stm
好像在Mac上存在Safari还不够糟糕，
现在我们也必须在Windows上处理它:-(哦，欢乐，
我们喜欢在Windows平台上支持世界上最差的浏览器
也。
我不认为它太糟糕了:-)
首先，Safari并没有在MacOS本身上使用过多和MacOS
只占地区市场份额的2％-5％：日本传统的
本地使用量增加。
考虑到这个
浏览器的众多漏洞和缺失功能，我很难想象它会受到风暴Windows平台的影响:-)
Safari基于开源WebKit，所以理论上任何专家
都可以将它移植到Windows上。在过去几年中做了一些尝试，
但是所有这些尝试最终都是0.x几乎没有可用的kappa版本。那个
使得Safari的艰难命运变得更加困难，因为它在全球范围内被兼容性测试有效排除了。虽然
大公司肯定可以购买测试Mac，小型开发商不会购买另一台 - 而且非常昂贵 - 计算机只是为了测试他们的网页。我终于意识到苹果终于意识到他们自己做了该死的事情，所以他们试图改变它。我只是希望他们不会这么傻到收费。
dd写道：
" Apple推出了一个版本的Windows浏览器Safari for Windows"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6742439.stm
好像Mac上存在Safari还不够，
现在我们也必须在Windows上处理它:-(哦，快乐，
我们也很乐意在Windows平台上支持世界上最差的浏览器
。
我只是我们测试了其中一个电子学习网站。其中
用户点击一个按钮打开一个带有一些额外资源的新窗口
通过cal到window.open ，它会在没有警告的情况下失败。
弹出窗口拦截器已禁用但仍无窗口.IE 5.5 +， FF 1+和
Opera 9+打开资源窗口。
我发现Safari for Windows处于测试版但是有一个javascript
degbugger可用吗？
Andrew Poulos
6月12日上午6:28，VK< schools_r ... @ yahoo.comwrote：
6月11日晚上10点47分，dd< dd4 ... @ gmail.comwrote：
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" Apple推出了一款适用于Windows的Web浏览器Safari版本。
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6742439.stm
好像有Safari存在在Mac上还不够，
现在我们也必须在Windows上处理它:-（哦，快乐，
我们有必要支持的乐趣Windows平台上世界上最糟糕的浏览器
也是。
我不认为它太糟糕了： - ）
首先，Safari并没有在MacOS上使用，
如果您完全信任网站统计信息，那么就使用它大约一半的Mac用户需要b $ b，这不仅仅是不那么多。我怀疑使用Mac OS而不是Safari的人使用版本
在10.3之前是好的。用户说一个运行OS X 10.2.8和
Firefox 1.5的旧eMac可能根本没有理由升级。
[...]
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我很难想象它会受到风暴Windows平台的影响:-)
我不觉得苹果有任何妄想关于成为
windows上排名第一的浏览器。史蒂夫·乔布斯多年来一直在说苹果要赢得
（即成功），微软不必输掉。
我认为Apple '的主要目标是让他们的浏览器更加可用
给Windows用户。第二个考虑因素是为Web开发人员提供一种方法，以便使用Safari测试他们的网站。我不认为旧Mac和最新版OS X的成本是一个考虑因素，
更不用说不得不使用单独的机器
测试。现在开发人员可以在他们的开发盒上同时运行IE，Firefox，Opera，Safari和其他任何东西，就像测试人员一样。考虑到Safari比IE更符合标准（如Firefox，Opera等），
只能是一件好事。
也许我们甚至会看到使用浏览器嗅探加载的网站结束
CSS和脚本文件......（不太可能）
-
Rob
"Apple has launched a version of its web browser Safari for Windows"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6742439.stm
As if having Safari exist on the Mac wasn''t bad enough,
now we have to deal with it on Windows too :-( Oh joy,
we have the delights of having to support the worst browser
in the world on the Windows platform also.
On Jun 11, 10:47 pm, dd <dd4...@gmail.comwrote:"Apple has launched a version of its web browser Safari for Windows"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6742439.stm
As if having Safari exist on the Mac wasn''t bad enough,
now we have to deal with it on Windows too :-( Oh joy,
we have the delights of having to support the worst browser
in the world on the Windows platform also.I don''t think it is so bad :-)
First of all, Safari is not so much used on MacOS itself, and MacOS
holds only 2%-5% by regions of the market share: with the traditional
local usage increase in Japan.
Taking into account numerous bugs and missing features of this
browser, I can hardly imagine it taking by storm Windows platforms :-)
Safari is based on open source WebKit, so theoretically any specialist
may port it onto Windows. Some attempts were made over the last years,
but all of them ended up on 0.x hardly usable kappa versions. That
made the hard destiny of Safari even more harder, because it was
effectively excluded worldwide from the compatibility testing. While
big company sure can buy a test Mac, small developers will not buy
another - and very expensive - computer just to test their pages. I
guess Apple finally realized that damn thing are they doing to
themselves, so they trying to change it. I just hope they will not be
so stupid to charge for.
dd wrote:"Apple has launched a version of its web browser Safari for Windows"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6742439.stm
As if having Safari exist on the Mac wasn''t bad enough,
now we have to deal with it on Windows too :-( Oh joy,
we have the delights of having to support the worst browser
in the world on the Windows platform also.
I just tested one of the elearning web sites that we have. In it the
user clicks a button to open a new window with some additional resources
via a cal to window.open, and it fails without warning.
The popup blocker is disabled yet still no window. IE 5.5+, FF 1+ and
Opera 9+ do open the resource window.
I realise that Safari for Windows is in beta but is there a javascript
degbugger available?
Andrew Poulos
On Jun 12, 6:28 am, VK <schools_r...@yahoo.comwrote:On Jun 11, 10:47 pm, dd <dd4...@gmail.comwrote:
"Apple has launched a version of its web browser Safari for Windows"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6742439.stm
As if having Safari exist on the Mac wasn''t bad enough,
now we have to deal with it on Windows too :-( Oh joy,
we have the delights of having to support the worst browser
in the world on the Windows platform also.
I don''t think it is so bad :-)
First of all, Safari is not so much used on MacOS itself,If you trust web site statistics at all, then it is used by about half
of Mac users, which is more than "not so much". I suspect that a good
percentage of those using Mac OS and not Safari are using a version
prior to 10.3. Users with say an old eMac running OS X 10.2.8 and
Firefox 1.5 probably see no reason at all to upgrade.
[...]I can hardly imagine it taking by storm Windows platforms :-)I don''t think Apple have any delusions about being the #1 browser on
windows. Steve Jobs has been saying for years that for Apple to win
(i.e. be successful), Microsoft doesn''t have to lose.
I think Apple''s primary goal is to make their browser more available
to Windows users. A secondary consideration is to provide a way for
web developers to test their sites with Safari. I don''t think the
cost of an old Mac and latest version of OS X was a consideration,
much more the inconvenience of having to use a separate machine for
testing. Now developers can run IE, Firefox, Opera, Safari, whatever
all at once on their dev box, as can testers. Considering Safari is
far more standards compliant than IE (as are Firefox, Opera, et al),
that can only be a good thing.
Maybe we''ll even see an end to sites that use browser sniffing to load
CSS and script files... (not likely)
--
Rob
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