第N次书籍推荐请求 [英] Nth request of book recommendations
问题描述
您好，
我是电子工程专业的学生。我知道你已经看过并回答了这个
类似的主题/请求无数次，但我没有找到过去的主题，因为我希望有所帮助。 ，尽管我已经阅读了所有和很多评论，但我希望b $ b更喜欢直接向比其他人更了解这个主题的人询问。
First总而言之，我对编程并不陌生，而且我已经有了一篇关于C的入门课程。我有一个中间C。当然这个学期。
无论什么中间C意思是，我打算用比入门课程更详细的语言学习语言。教授在两本书之间给了我们选择
：C：The Complete Reference赫伯特·希尔特（Herbert Schildt）和A Book
on C作者：Kelley / Pohl。
我有Schildt's。我开始逐页阅读，很高兴找到
一个深入而详细但可读的语言参考。正如你可以想象的那样，这本书的不一致性开始让我怀疑在
前几章后。我在这里搜索了关于这本书的线索，发现了很多
的抨击和一般不喜欢这本书，这证实了我（悲伤）的印象
我正在阅读非常愉快，但是误导，书。
我想要一本更好的书 - 我可以依赖的书。与此同时，我不想再用另一种语言介绍 - 我已经完成了这个。而且我想要一些可读的东西，而不是某种C百科全书。我的搜索范围缩小了这些书的可能候选人：
- C on Book，Kelley&波尔。这似乎是许多人推荐的，但它是否很好作为详细的参考？我的一般感觉是它可能有点朝向初学者。
- C编程语言，以及K& R2 。绝对是一本我会早点购买的书
或更晚，但我觉得现在我想要更详细的东西。我知道
它仍然是最好的 - 但从中提取信息可能并不总是很容易。我也不确定它作为完整参考的价值。
- " C：A Reference Manual"作者：Harbison&斯蒂尔。我的学习需要这个吗？
它对学习有用吗，还是只是一个参考？那个只懂语言基础知识的人是否可读？
？一般情况下，它可以阅读
几乎覆盖了吗？
如果可能的话，我想知道装订/纸张的质量这些
书籍：由于它们的价格，我希望它们可以持续十年，而不是一年。
简单地说：我想要一本书比如Schildt'，但是正确，精确和符合ANSI标准的
。
如果你真的读过这一切，谢谢你。我希望有人可以帮助我。
如果您认为我的三种可能选择是
不够，请随意推荐另一本书。
Guido Mureddu
_____________________________________________
用VIM编写 - Vi改进（ www.vim.org ）
Hello,
I''m a student in electronic engineering. I do know you''ve seen and answered this
sort of topic/request countless times, but I haven''t found past threads as
helpful as I had hoped, and even though I have read them all and many reviews, I
prefer to ask directly to people who know the subject better than anyone else.
First of all, I''m not new to programming, and I have already had an
introductory course on C. I have an "intermediate C" course this semester.
Whatever "intermediate C" means, I intend to learn the language in much greater
detail than I did with the introductory course. The professor gave us choice
between two books: "C: The Complete Reference" by Herbert Schildt, and "A Book
on C" by Kelley/Pohl.
I have Schildt''s. I started reading through it page by page, happy to have found
a deep and detailed - but readable - reference on the language. As you can
imagine, the book''s inconsistencies started to make me suspicious after the
first few chapters. I searched here for threads about the book, and found a lot
of bashing and general dislike of the book, which confirmed my (sad) impression
that I was reading a very enjoyable, but misinforming, book.
I want a better book - one that I can rely on. At the same time, I don''t want
another introduction to the language - I''ve gone through that already. And I
want something readable, not some sort of C encyclopedia. My searches narrowed
down possible candidates to these books:
- "A Book on C", by Kelley & Pohl. This seems to be recommended by many, but is
it good as a detailed reference? My general feeling is that it might be a little
too oriented towards the beginner.
- "The C Programming Language", well, K&R2. Definitely a book I will buy sooner
or later, but I feel that right now I''d like something more detailed. I know
it''s still the best - but extracting informations from it may not always be
easy. Also I''m not sure about its value as a complete reference.
- "C: A Reference Manual" by Harbison & Steele. Do I need this for my studies?
Is it actually useful for learning, or is it only a reference? Is it readable
by someone who only knows the basics of the language? In general, can it be read
almost cover to cover?
If possible, I''d like to know about the quality of the binding/paper of these
books: because of their prices, I want them to last one decade, not one year.
To put it simply: I want a book like Schildt''s, but correct, precise and
conforming to the ANSI standard.
If you''ve actually read through all this, thank you. I hope someone can help me.
Feel free to recommend another book if you think my three possible choices are
not adequate.
Guido Mureddu
_____________________________________________
Written with VIM - Vi Improved (www.vim.org)
推荐答案
" Guido Mureddu" <
"Guido Mureddu" <
您好，
我是电子工程专业的学生。我知道你已经看过了，
无数次回答了这个话题/请求，但我没有找到过去的帖子，因为我希望有所帮助，即使我已经读过它们所有和许多
评论，我更愿意直接向那些比任何人更好地了解这个主题的人询问.b / b。首先，我不是新编程，我已经有一个关于C的入门课程。我有一个中间C。当然这个学期。
无论什么中间C意思是，我打算用比介绍课程更多的细节来学习语言。教授在两本书之间给了我们
的选择：C：The Complete Reference。作者：Herbert Schildt，以及A
Book on C作者：Kelley / Pohl。
我有Schildt'。我开始逐页阅读，很高兴有
找到了一个深入而详细但可读的语言参考。正如你可以想象的那样，这本书的不一致性开始让我在前几章的
之后产生怀疑。我在这里搜索了关于这本书的线索，并发现了b b b ba and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and br />
我想要一本更好的书 - 我可以依赖的书。与此同时，我不想要另外介绍这种语言 - 我已经完成了这一点。并且
我想要一些可读的东西，而不是某种C百科全书。我的搜索
缩小了这些书中可能的候选人：
- C on Book，由Kelley&波尔。这似乎是很多人推荐的，
，但作为一个详细的参考是否好？我的一般感觉是它可能是一个过于朝向初学者的
。
- C编程语言，以及K& R2。绝对是一本书我迟早会买到
，但我觉得现在我想要更详细的东西。我知道它仍然是最好的 - 但从中提取信息并不总是很容易。我也不确定它作为完整参考的价值。
绝对必要。直接去书店。不要通过Go，除非它是
是5 * PRICE。
- " C：A Reference Manual"作者：Harbison&斯蒂尔。我的
学习需要这个吗？它对学习有用吗，还是只是一个参考？只知道语言基础知识的人可以读取
吗？一般来说，几乎可以看到
几乎要覆盖？
如果可能的话，我想知道这些书的
装订/纸张的质量：因为他们的价格，我希望他们能够持续十年，而不是一年b $ b。
简单地说：我想要像Schildt这样的书，但正确，准确和符合要求符合ANSI标准。
如果你真的读过这一切，谢谢你。我希望有人可以
帮助我。如果您认为我的三个可能的选择
不够，请随意推荐另一本书。
Hello,
I''m a student in electronic engineering. I do know you''ve seen and answered this sort of topic/request countless times, but I haven''t found past threads as
helpful as I had hoped, and even though I have read them all and many reviews, I prefer to ask directly to people who know the subject better than anyone else.
First of all, I''m not new to programming, and I have already had an
introductory course on C. I have an "intermediate C" course this semester.
Whatever "intermediate C" means, I intend to learn the language in much greater detail than I did with the introductory course. The professor gave us choice between two books: "C: The Complete Reference" by Herbert Schildt, and "A Book on C" by Kelley/Pohl.
I have Schildt''s. I started reading through it page by page, happy to have found a deep and detailed - but readable - reference on the language. As you can
imagine, the book''s inconsistencies started to make me suspicious after the first few chapters. I searched here for threads about the book, and found a lot of bashing and general dislike of the book, which confirmed my (sad) impression that I was reading a very enjoyable, but misinforming, book.
I want a better book - one that I can rely on. At the same time, I don''t want another introduction to the language - I''ve gone through that already. And I want something readable, not some sort of C encyclopedia. My searches narrowed down possible candidates to these books:
- "A Book on C", by Kelley & Pohl. This seems to be recommended by many, but is it good as a detailed reference? My general feeling is that it might be a little too oriented towards the beginner.
- "The C Programming Language", well, K&R2. Definitely a book I will buy sooner or later, but I feel that right now I''d like something more detailed. I know it''s still the best - but extracting informations from it may not always be easy. Also I''m not sure about its value as a complete reference.
Absolutely necessary. Go directly to bookstore. Do not pass Go, unless it
is to 5*PRICE.
- "C: A Reference Manual" by Harbison & Steele. Do I need this for my studies? Is it actually useful for learning, or is it only a reference? Is it readable by someone who only knows the basics of the language? In general, can it be read almost cover to cover?
If possible, I''d like to know about the quality of the binding/paper of these books: because of their prices, I want them to last one decade, not one year.
To put it simply: I want a book like Schildt''s, but correct, precise and
conforming to the ANSI standard.
If you''ve actually read through all this, thank you. I hope someone can help me. Feel free to recommend another book if you think my three possible choices are not adequate.
C Unleashed。不要气馁，因为他们在你们面前的光年数很多。希思菲尔德的队员没有比赛。 MPJ
C Unleashed. Don''t be discouraged that they''re light-years ahead of you on
most topics. Heathfield''s crew has no match. MPJ
2004年11月27日星期六20:26:55 +0100
Guido Mureddu< gm *** @ tiscali.it>写道：
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:26:55 +0100
Guido Mureddu <gm***@tiscali.it> wrote:
你好，
我是电子工程专业的学生。我知道你已经看过并且已经无数次地回答过这样的话题/请求了，但是我没有发现过去的线程像我希望的那样有用，即使我有阅读他们所有和很多评论，我更愿意直接询问那些比其他人更了解这个主题的人。
您是否也查过常见问题解答？
首先，我不是编程的新手，而且我已经有了一个
关于C的入门课程。我有一个中级C。当然这个学期。无论中间C是什么意思是，我打算比我介绍的课程更详细地学习
语言。教授给了我们两本书之间的选择：C：
完全参考。作者：Herbert Schildt，
我已经对你的教授留下了深刻的印象。
和A Book on C通过
Kelley / Pohl。我有Schildt的。我开始通过页面阅读
页面，很高兴找到了一个深入而详细 - 但可读 -
的语言参考。正如你可以想象的那样，这本书的不一致性在前几章之后开始让我产生怀疑。我在这里搜索了关于这本书的线索，并发现了很多关于这本书的抨击和一般的厌恶，这证实了我（悲伤）的印象，我正在阅读一个非常愉快，但是误导，
预订。
好，你有正确的印象。你可以看看它是否有效作为火灾的燃料而不是C教科书。
我想要一本更好的书 - 我可以依赖它。与此同时，我不想再对该语言进行介绍 - 我已经完成了
。我想要一些可读的东西，而不是某种C
百科全书。我的搜索缩小了这些书的可能候选人：
< snip>
- C编程语言，以及K& ; R2。绝对是一本我迟早要买的书，但我觉得现在我想要更详细的东西。我知道它仍然是最好的 - 但从中提取信息可能并不总是那么容易。我也不确定它作为完整参考的价值。
< snip>
我不知道你提到的其他书籍，但我发现K& R2很简单为了获得
的阅读，虽然我在学习C之前已经专业开发了几年
。我相信这里的一些学会从
$ b $学习b K& R2。所以，如果我是你，我现在会得到K& R2，即使你还得到了其他的东西。
如果可能的话，我想知道质量这些书的装订/纸张：由于它们的价格，我希望它们持续十年，而不是一年。
我的K& R2副本很旧，有点邋..如果它变得无法使用，我会很高兴地买一个新的副本。
简单地说：我想要像Schildt这样的书，但是正确，准确<并且符合ANSI标准。
K& R2中存在一些错误，但勘误表可在线获取。它已经接近完成了，我相信这些遗漏很少。
如果你真的读过这一切，谢谢你。我希望有人可以帮助我。如果您认为我的三个可能的选择不充分，请随意推荐另一本书。
Hello,
I''m a student in electronic engineering. I do know you''ve seen and
answered this sort of topic/request countless times, but I haven''t
found past threads as helpful as I had hoped, and even though I have
read them all and many reviews, I prefer to ask directly to people who
know the subject better than anyone else.
Have you also checked the FAQ?
First of all, I''m not new to programming, and I have already had an
introductory course on C. I have an "intermediate C" course this
semester. Whatever "intermediate C" means, I intend to learn the
language in much greater detail than I did with the introductory
course. The professor gave us choice between two books: "C: The
Complete Reference" by Herbert Schildt,
I''m already less than impressed with your professor.
and "A Book on C" by
Kelley/Pohl. I have Schildt''s. I started reading through it page by
page, happy to have found a deep and detailed - but readable -
reference on the language. As you can imagine, the book''s
inconsistencies started to make me suspicious after the first few
chapters. I searched here for threads about the book, and found a lot
of bashing and general dislike of the book, which confirmed my (sad)
impression that I was reading a very enjoyable, but misinforming,
book.
Good, you''ve got the correct impression. You could see if it works
better as fuel for a fire than it does as a C text book.
I want a better book - one that I can rely on. At the same time, I
don''t want another introduction to the language - I''ve gone through
that already. And I want something readable, not some sort of C
encyclopedia. My searches narrowed down possible candidates to these
books:
<snip>
- "The C Programming Language", well, K&R2. Definitely a book I will
buy sooner or later, but I feel that right now I''d like something more
detailed. I know it''s still the best - but extracting informations
from it may not always be easy. Also I''m not sure about its value as a
complete reference.
<snip>
I don''t know the other books you mention, but I''ve found K&R2 easy to
read, although I had been developing SW proffesionally for a few years
before learning C. I believe some around here learnt to program from
K&R2. So, if I was you I would get K&R2 now even if you also get
something else.
If possible, I''d like to know about the quality of the binding/paper
of these books: because of their prices, I want them to last one
decade, not one year.
My copy of K&R2 is old and a bit tatty. If it becomes unusable I''ll
happily buy a new copy.
To put it simply: I want a book like Schildt''s, but correct, precise
and conforming to the ANSI standard.
There are some errors in K&R2, but the errata is available on line. It
is close to complete and I believe the ommissions are minor.
If you''ve actually read through all this, thank you. I hope someone
can help me. Feel free to recommend another book if you think my three
possible choices are not adequate.
我所拥有的唯一一本C书就是K& R2。还有一些好的
作品，但它们很难在垃圾中找到。
-
Flash Gordon
生活在有趣的时代。
虽然我的电子邮件地址是垃圾邮件，但它是真实的，我读了它。
The only C book I have ever owned is K&R2. There are some other good
works, but they can be hard to find amongst the rubbish.
--
Flash Gordon
Living in interesting times.
Although my email address says spam, it is real and I read it.
Guido Mureddu写道：
Guido Mureddu wrote:
你好，
嗨
我是电子工程专业的学生。我知道你已经无数次见过并回答了这个主题/请求，但是我没有找到过去的主题，因为我希望有所帮助，即使我已经阅读了它们所有和很多评论，我更愿意直接向比其他人更了解这个主题的人直接询问。
首先，我不是新编程，我已经有一个关于C的入门课程。我有一个中间C。当然这个学期。
无论什么中间C意思是，我打算用比入门课程更详细的语言学习这门语言。教授给了我们两本书之间的选择：C：The Complete Reference。作者：赫伯特·希尔特（Herbert Schildt），以及关于C的一本书。作者：Kelley / Pohl。
我有Schildt'。我开始逐页阅读，很高兴找到了关于语言的深入而详细但可读的参考资料。正如你可以想象的那样，这本书的不一致性开始让我怀疑在前几章之后。我在这里搜索了关于这本书的线索，发现了很多关于这本书的抨击和一般的厌恶，这证实了我（悲伤）的印象
我正在阅读一本非常令人愉快但却误导的书。
害怕如此......这并不是说Schildt是一个糟糕的作家，只是因为他'
嗯......错了，不肯承认......还有一种狡猾的感觉。
我想要一本更好的书 - 我可以依赖的书。与此同时，我不想再对该语言进行介绍 - 我已经完成了这一点。我想要一些可读的东西，而不是某种C百科全书。我的搜索范围缩小了这些书的可能候选人：
- C on Book，Kelley&波尔。这似乎是很多人推荐的，但它作为详细的参考是好的吗？我的一般感觉是它可能有点朝向初学者。
- C编程语言，以及K& R2。绝对是一本我会尽快购买的书，但我现在觉得我想要更详细的东西。我知道
它仍然是最好的 - 但从中提取信息可能并不总是很容易。我也不确定它作为完整参考的价值。
当使用C时，这是必须的。
- " C：A参考手册作者：Harbison&斯蒂尔。我的学习需要这个吗？
它对学习有用吗，还是只是一个参考？只知道语言基础知识的人是否可读？一般情况下，它是否可以阅读
几乎覆盖？
我不介意这本书，虽然我不知道我是否可以推荐它a
还在学习书的语言类型...但如果你有钱，
就可以拿起来。
如果可能的话，我我想知道这些书籍的装订/纸张质量：由于它们的价格，我希望它们可以持续十年而不是一年。
取决于使用。
简单地说：我想要像Schildt这样的书，但是正确，精确且符合ANSI标准。
如果您真的已经阅读了所有这些，谢谢。我希望有人可以帮助我。
如果你认为我的三个选择是不够的话，请随意推荐另一本书。
Hello,
Hi
I''m a student in electronic engineering. I do know you''ve seen and answered this
sort of topic/request countless times, but I haven''t found past threads as
helpful as I had hoped, and even though I have read them all and many reviews, I
prefer to ask directly to people who know the subject better than anyone else.
First of all, I''m not new to programming, and I have already had an
introductory course on C. I have an "intermediate C" course this semester.
Whatever "intermediate C" means, I intend to learn the language in much greater
detail than I did with the introductory course. The professor gave us choice
between two books: "C: The Complete Reference" by Herbert Schildt, and "A Book
on C" by Kelley/Pohl.
I have Schildt''s. I started reading through it page by page, happy to have found
a deep and detailed - but readable - reference on the language. As you can
imagine, the book''s inconsistencies started to make me suspicious after the
first few chapters. I searched here for threads about the book, and found a lot
of bashing and general dislike of the book, which confirmed my (sad) impression
that I was reading a very enjoyable, but misinforming, book.
Afraid so...It''s not that Schildt is a bad writer, it''s just that he''s
ummm...Wrong and won''t admit it...and a touch pious.
I want a better book - one that I can rely on. At the same time, I don''t want
another introduction to the language - I''ve gone through that already. And I
want something readable, not some sort of C encyclopedia. My searches narrowed
down possible candidates to these books:
- "A Book on C", by Kelley & Pohl. This seems to be recommended by many, but is
it good as a detailed reference? My general feeling is that it might be a little
too oriented towards the beginner.
- "The C Programming Language", well, K&R2. Definitely a book I will buy sooner
or later, but I feel that right now I''d like something more detailed. I know
it''s still the best - but extracting informations from it may not always be
easy. Also I''m not sure about its value as a complete reference.
When using C, this is a must.
- "C: A Reference Manual" by Harbison & Steele. Do I need this for my studies?
Is it actually useful for learning, or is it only a reference? Is it readable
by someone who only knows the basics of the language? In general, can it be read
almost cover to cover?
I don''t mind this book, though I don''t know if I could recommend it as a
still learning the language type of book...But if you have the money,
pick it up.
If possible, I''d like to know about the quality of the binding/paper of these
books: because of their prices, I want them to last one decade, not one year.
Depends on use.
To put it simply: I want a book like Schildt''s, but correct, precise and
conforming to the ANSI standard.
If you''ve actually read through all this, thank you. I hope someone can help me.
Feel free to recommend another book if you think my three possible choices are
not adequate.
虽然我还没有读过Dietel和Deitels的C版C：How to
program我听说过一些好消息。 C ++版本为学生提供了一些优秀的例子，经常被用作教科书。
如果我们假设C版本类似，它应该是一本相当不错的书。
几年前，我读了一本名为C primer plus的书。我有一本非常好的学习经验。
最后，C编程：现代方法我听说也很好
好。随便挑选。
再见！
Though I have not read the C version of Dietel and Deitels "C: How to
program" I have heard some good things about it. The C++ version has
some excellent examples for the student and is often used as a textbook.
If we assume the C version is similiar, it should be a fairly good book.
Years ago I read a Book called "C primer plus". I had a very good
learning experience with this book.
Finally, "C Programming: A Modern Approach" I''ve heard is also quite
good. Take your pick.
Bye!
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