[评估] - E04 - 领导力！谷歌，Guido van Rossum，PSF [英] [EVALUATION] - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF

问题描述

Python领导力是一个弱点[1]，现在变成了对b
python的威胁，这要归功于van Rossums先生在谷歌工作。


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我已经将领导力列表列为优先顺序（Google规则，van Rossum先生

如下，PSF观看并接受）。


开源项目的核心开发人员被一个巨人'b
（谷歌）抓住。


巨人并没有直接通知社区，例如同时发布

给这家媒体的官方声明或官方声明

（澄清交易细节）。


van Rossum先生未直接通知社区。


开源项目（PSF）不会直接通知社区。


只是一个有点谣言的帖子。


Guido at Google
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....c299b817dca256


真的，这不会给人留下非常专业的印象。


这当然与领导力无关。 - 应该

保护社区免受浪费时间和精力的不必要的假设和猜测。


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[1]


在这个帖子里面（包含一个简单的理性改变建议）

我终于联系了基础。


[评估] - E02 - 支持MinGW开源编译器
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....2aad11f0516918


基金会通过电子邮件作出反应，但只是有一些理由。


范罗森先生也做出了反应。这导致了一些有趣的（并且是偏离主题的）

对话，该对话已经关闭以便发布（但最终他决定

对面）。

最后他建议我患有某种精神疾病。

许多人简化：我不明白，必须坚果。


我希望他现在明白了（可能他有勇气支付
道歉？）：

http://lazaridis.com/core/index.html


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http://lazaridis.com/core/eval/python.html

Python Leadership was a weakness [1] and becomes now a threat for
python, thanks to Mr. van Rossums employment at Google.

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I''ve wrote the Leadership list prioritized (Google rules, Mr. van Rossum
follows, PSF watches and accepts).

The core developer of an open-source-project is ''captured'' by an giant
(Google).

The giant does not inform the community directly, e.g. whilst posting
an official statement to this media or with an official anouncement
(which clarifies the details of the deal).

Mr. van Rossum does not inform the community directly.

The Open Source Project (PSF) does not inform the community directly.

Just a thread with a little bit rumour.

Guido at Google
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....c299b817dca256

Really, this does not make a very professional impression.

And this has of course nothing to do with "Leadership" - which should
protect an community from wasting time and energy with unnecessary
assumptions and speculations.

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[1]

Within this thread (which contained a simple rational change-suggestion)
i''ve finally contacted the foundation.

[EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....2aad11f0516918

The foundation had reacted by email, but just with some justifications.

Mr. van Rossum has reacted, too. This led to some funny (and off-topic)
conversation, which was closed to be published (but finally he decided
opposite).

And very finally he suggested that I suffer from some mental disease.
Many people simplify: "what I don''t understand, must be nuts".

I hope that he understands now (possibly he has the courage for an
apology?):

http://lazaridis.com/core/index.html

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http://lazaridis.com/core/eval/python.html

推荐答案

谷歌的Guido：THE中的一条消息公共论坛clp


Martellibot的确认，Guido与他的距离远远超过15米

;并且Python中的每个人都知道Martellibot在桌子上的位置是什么价格。


它可以获得比这更官方的官方吗？


是的：

a确认Greg Stein @Google在slashdot中，Guido是

在谷歌工作。


我肯定Python社区中有更多人正在阅读clp

和/。比起华盛顿邮报，受影响的人已经被告知了。


我想这是正式和官方的，因为它可以得到。


关于Guido，Python，社区和领导力：


Guido是设计师，是Python的创造者。他对自己的设计决策几乎没有任何信任：我们都知道，他是有天赋的b $ b语言设计师。他的宣言被接受了，因为他已经证明了随着时间的推移，他知道什么是最好的语言。


请允许我引用格雷格斯坦：

哈！如果你试图让他管理

人，Guido会心跳加速。那就是他不在的地方。他绝对精彩，而且b $ b喜欢写出优秀的代码。大。我们要让他这样做

： - ）"


所以，谷歌和他们的极客版Playboy-Mansion，免费按摩

parleurs，免费午餐和晚餐以及

星球和已知宇宙的最佳招募策略将无法让Guido管理

人们。


不知何故，Python社区多年来一直在管理自己... Python

健康稳定地增长;比通常更少分叉，启发其他语言，并且更快，更快，更快。


也许只有平庸而少创意才需要伟大的领导者。也许一个伟大的

想法可以自己引导？


Harald


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GHUM Harald Massa

persuadere et programmare

Harald Armin Massa

Reinsburgstra？e 202b

70197斯图加特

0173/9409607

Guido at Google: a message in THE public forum c.l.p.

A confirmation by Martellibot, that Guido is IN FACT sitting 15m
distant from him; and everybody in Python knows where Martellibot has
his desk.

Can it get more official than this?

yeah:
a confirmation by Greg Stein @ Google within slashdot, that Guido is
working at Google.

I am sure that more people in the Python community are reading c.l.p.
and /. than the washington post, the people affected have been
informed.

I guess that''s as formal and official as it can get.

And concerning Guido, Python, community and leadership:

Guido is the designer, the creator of Python. He has nearly unlimeted
trust in his design decisions: we all know, that he is THE gifted
language designer. His proclamations are accepted because he has proven
over time that he knows what''s best for the language.

Allow me to quote Greg Stein:
"Ha! Guido would quit in a heartbeat if you tried to make him manage
people. That just isn''t where he''s at. He''s absolutely brilliant and
loves to write excellent code. Great. We''re gonna let him do just that
:-)"

So, Google with their geek-version of the Playboy-Mansion, free massage
parleurs, free lunch and dinner and best recruitment tactics on the
planet and the known universe will not be able to make Guido manage
people.

Somehow the Python community managed itself through the years... Python
grew healthy and steadily; forked less then usual, inspired other
languages and got faster and faster and faster.

Maybe only mediocre and less ideas need a great leader. Maybe a great
idea can lead for itself?

Harald

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GHUM Harald Massa
persuadere et programmare
Harald Armin Massa
Reinsburgstra?e 202b
70197 Stuttgart
0173/9409607

Ilias Lazaridis写道：

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所以我猜你自愿参加 http://www.python.org/ psf / volunteer.html ？

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mph

Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
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So I guess you volunteer http://www.python.org/psf/volunteer.html ?
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mph

Ilias Lazaridis写道：

Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

[恐慌，恐惧，担心]

[ panic, fear, worry ]

只说恭喜！是什么意思？ ？我认为的第一件事就是

哦，也许Guido将能够在那里工作P3K - 毕竟那将是

有利于Google *和*其他人:-)


（特别是如果他使用PyPy进行实验和玩...： ）


圣诞快乐/新年快乐:-)

迈克尔。

What''s wrong with just saying "Congratulations!" ? First thing I thought was
"ooh, maybe Guido will be able to work on P3K there" - after all that would
benefit Google *and* everyone else :-)

(Especially if he uses PyPy to experiment and play in ... :)

Merry Christmas/Happy New Year :-)
Michael.

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