PHP是Linux的VB [英] PHP is the VB of Linux
问题描述
我想我正在谈论让我的胸膛脱落。我想我正在和
说话的新手想知道他们是否想继续使用ASP.NET，C＃，
JSP，或者其他什么，或者他们是否想要在
PHP中完成他们的下一个项目。
好的。我从Microsoft Windows 2000和Visual Basic和ASP转到了Linux和JSP的
。我打算现在继续使用Linux。我们只是说我做了b $ b，但是JSP加剧了。我不得不键入比我更多的代码10倍b / b
我觉得必须这样做，数据类型总是妨碍我。通常我会
必须编写一些代码，修复它，重新编译，然后测试，找到一个
错误，回去等等 - 编译步骤加剧了并放慢了
的事情。我一直想要一个VB for Linux。
然后，我开始使用PHP和MySQL，因为我觉得它已经终于成熟了。
。令我惊讶的是，除了{}和;之外，PHP几乎是
是Linux的VB，这要归功于Zend PHP4引擎的原始速度，如果
不是PHP5一个在拐角处。使用PHP，我不必担心数据类型的问题，混乱的编译步骤，给JDBC添加JDBC连接器带来的痛苦和b $ b，以及我可以少写10遍
代码并且仍然有相当快的页面。而且，既然您现在可以编译
PHP，那么如果需要，您可以比JSP更快地运行。为了解决这个问题，PHP很快就会有一个跨平台的GTK +窗口
引擎，以便可以制作独立的应用程序或客户端/服务器形式
apps。
当我说VB和ASP时，我并不是指VB.NET。我参加了VB.NET的课程
，并且必须用C＃和ASP.NET编写代码。微软更容易做出一些事情，而有些事情要困难十倍。我发现XML / XSLT
库比较旧，并且与旧库相比是不完整的。另外，我意识到我正在为一个不稳定，不安全的专有平台写作
除了变得越来越复杂之外什么都不做。我想，如果
Windows正朝着复杂性和锁定的方向发展，而Linux已经做了180美元，那么Linux已经成熟了
和Java，为什么我不把这个转移到Linux？并且它已经完成了
。起初我喜欢JSP只是为了从微软免费，但是我很高兴我终于搬到了PHP，我计划留下来。
RedHat 9使Apache，PHP和MySQL快速安装 - 使用
除了添加/删除程序上的6个复选框并插入
磁盘。 />
现在，关于MySQL和LAMP的嗡嗡声，但随着PostgreSQL开始成长，并且由于MySQL的许可变更，我们都
可能会使用PostgreSQL转移到LAPP，仍然是开源的。
所以，无论如何，我正在考虑编写一个工单管理系统
/ CRM作为PHP Web应用程序，或PHP / MySQL（或PostgreSQL）
设备。我计划制作一个开源版本，然后是一个
定制版本，我可以出售现金。该设备将是一个带有磁带驱动器的机箱式2驱动器硬件镜像AMD proc。是的，它将在Linux上构建
。你可以用一个网页浏览器来管理这个设备，除了每日录像带之外它什么也不做，在凉爽，无尘的环境中保持它b
$ b这是一个不错的UPS。
所以，新手，如果你正在寻找VB的话。在Linux中，没有比PHP更好的了.b $ b。它已经成熟。
Google Mike写道：
我想我正在谈论得到这离我的胸口。
一个很棒的帖子。
我一直想要一个VB for Linux。
http://www.realbasic.com/ realbasic / index.php
根据网站版本5.5即将到期RSN还将支持
Linux。
尽管我喜欢PHP，但这对于构建用户来说非常诱人
GUI前端。
最重要的是，PHP即将推出有一个跨平台的GTK +
窗口引擎，这样一个人可以制作独立的应用程序或
客户端/服务器窗体应用程序。
虽然这很棒，直到它得到一个不错的RAD IDE，它仍然会最好地适用于命令行和web。
RedHat 9使Apache，PHP和MySQL快速安装 - 使用
除了添加/删除程序上的6个复选框并插入
磁盘。
RH9非常好，我很高兴，不仅仅是它，还有RHN。
现在，关于MySQL的嗡嗡声和LAMP，但随着PostgreSQL开始成长，并且由于MySQL的许可变更，我们都可能会使用PostgreSQL转向LAPP，仍然是开源的。
恕我直言，Postgresql已经领先于MySQL，而且已经花了几年的时间。 Postgresql我相信只有一两年的时间才能真正实现与甲骨文的竞争。
所以，无论如何，我正在考虑编写工作订单管理系统
/ CRM作为PHP Web应用程序或PHP / MySQL（或PostgreSQL）
设备。我计划制作一个开源版本，然后是一个我可以出售现金的定制版本。该设备将是带有磁带机的机械装置2驱动器硬件镜像，AMD proc。是的，
它将建立在Linux上。您可以使用网络浏览器来管理设备，除了每日录像带之外什么也不做，将它保存在凉爽，无尘的环境中，并给它一个不错的UPS。
一个有趣的商业机会，确保你的项目好运。
所以，新手，如果你正在寻找VB的话。在Linux中，看起来没有比PHP更进一步。它已经成熟。
我会同意的。我在去年爱上了PHP。我用
多次使用PERL和shell脚本来构建服务器端
工具和接口作为系统管理员。然后我找到了PHP，并且它开始时需要修复一些网页工具，我很快发现PHP
在网上也非常好。我现在用PHP编写所有代码.... PERL，
和BASH脚本对我来说已成为过去。我现在实际上再次享受
编码。我正在做的大多数东西使用Postgresql作为数据库
和用于连接业务系统的自定义套接字。这太棒了
因为PHP而容易多了。
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< blockquote> Pham Nuwen写道：
Google Mike写道：
我想我正在谈论这个让我失去理智。
一个优秀的帖子。
如果PHP是Linux的VB，那么什么是Fosters？
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Pham Nuwen< ph ****** *****@libertydice.org>在消息中写道
恕我直言，Postgresql已经领先于MySQL，已经有好几年了。 Postgresql我相信只有一年或两年才能真正与甲骨文竞争。
我想我对Postgresql还不太了解。我认为这个
将是非常有用的信息，可以知道何时进行PHP项目。我的
真的很喜欢我的项目全部开源，所以也许我需要
来试一试。
我在南佛罗伦萨的rinky dink书店注意到了
卡罗莱纳，虽然在LAMP上有5本关于Postgresql的书和约12本b / b
书。 MySQL的。去年，我甚至都不知道Postgresql
存在。因此，看起来它正在获得思想共享。我还要
认为我必须向IT部门出售我的解决方案。现在，
他们知道LAMP。如果我说这不是LAMP，而是LAPP，我只是不知道
如果他们得到了它。
我注意到RH9附带它，看起来像从服务控制面板启动一样简单。
。
MySQL有一个非常可靠的GUI，称为MySQL命令控制台（mysqlcc）
，这对我来说非常简单，比如使用MS Access或MS SQL
服务器。在Postgresql上是否有相同的东西？
MySQL非常快，因为它不是完整的ANSI-92，但是，对于最多的b $ b b部分，有用的子集。因为Postgresql是ANSI-92到
nines，你认为它会慢得多吗？
I guess I''m talking to get this off my chest. I guess I''m talking to
the newbies out there wondering if they want to remain on ASP.NET, C#,
JSP, or whatever, or whether they want to do their next project in
PHP.
Okay. I moved from Microsoft Windows 2000 and Visual Basic and ASP to
Linux and JSP. I plan to stay on Linux now. Let''s just say that I did
it, but JSP was aggravating. I had to type 10 times more code than I
felt I had to, and the data types always got in my way. Often I would
have to write some code, fix it, recompile again, then test, find a
bug, go back, etc. -- the compilation step was aggravating and slowed
things down a great deal. I kept wanting a VB for Linux.
Then, I started working with PHP and MySQL because I felt it had
finally matured. To my surprise, besides the {} and ;, PHP pretty much
is the VB of Linux thanks to the raw speed of the Zend PHP4 engine, if
not the PHP5 one around the corner. With PHP, I don''t have to worry
about data types, mess with the slow compilation step, have the pain
of adding the JDBC connector to JSP, and I can write 10 times less
code and still have pretty fast pages. And, since you can now compile
PHP, you can run even faster than JSP if you need to do so. To top
things off, PHP is soon going to have a cross-platform GTK+ windowing
engine so that one can make standalone apps or client/server form
apps.
When I say VB and ASP, I didn''t mean VB.NET. I took a class in VB.NET
and had to write code in C# and ASP.NET. Microsoft made some things
easier, and some things were ten times harder. I found the XML/XSLT
library sucked and was incomplete compared to the old one. Plus, I
realized I was writing for an unstable, unsecure, proprietary platform
that is doing nothing but get more and more complex. I thought, if
Windows is going in the direction of complexity and lock-in, and Linux
and Java is doing a 180 on that, and things have matured with Linux
and Java, why don''t I just make the move, wholesale, to Linux? And it
was done. At first I liked JSP just to be free from Microsoft, but I''m
very glad I finally moved to PHP, where I plan to stay.
RedHat 9 made Apache, PHP, and MySQL a snap to install -- using
nothing but 6 checkboxes on the Add/Remove Programs and inserting the
disks.
Right now, the buzz is all about MySQL and LAMP, but with PostgreSQL
starting to grow up, and because of MySQL''s licensing changes, we all
might be moving to LAPP with PostgreSQL, remaining open source.
So, anyway, I''m thinking about writing a work order management system
/ CRM as either a PHP web app, or a PHP/MySQL (or PostgreSQL)
appliance. I plan to make an open source version, and then a
customized version that I can sell for cash. The appliance would be a
rackmount 2 drive hardware mirror, AMD proc., with tape drive. Yes, it
would be built on Linux. You would manage the appliance with a web
browser and it would do nothing but feed it the daily tapes, keep it
in a cool, dust-free environment, and give it a nice UPS.
So, newbies, if you are looking for the "VB" in Linux, look no further
than PHP. It has matured.
Google Mike wrote:
I guess I''m talking to get this off my chest.
An excellent post.
I kept wanting a VB for Linux.
http://www.realbasic.com/realbasic/index.php
According to the website Version 5.5 which is due RSN will also support
Linux.
As much as I love PHP this is very tempting at least for building user
GUI frontends.
To top things off, PHP is soon going to have a cross-platform GTK+
windowing engine so that one can make standalone apps or
client/server form apps.
While that is great until it gets a decent RAD IDE it is still going to
be best suited to the command line, and web.
RedHat 9 made Apache, PHP, and MySQL a snap to install -- using
nothing but 6 checkboxes on the Add/Remove Programs and inserting the
disks.
RH9 is very nice, I''m very happy not only with it, but the RHN too.
Right now, the buzz is all about MySQL and LAMP, but with PostgreSQL
starting to grow up, and because of MySQL''s licensing changes, we all
might be moving to LAPP with PostgreSQL, remaining open source.
IMHO Postgresql is WAY ahead of MySQL, and has been for a couple of
years. Postgresql I believe is only a year or two from being real
competition to Oracle.
So, anyway, I''m thinking about writing a work order management system
/ CRM as either a PHP web app, or a PHP/MySQL (or PostgreSQL)
appliance. I plan to make an open source version, and then a
customized version that I can sell for cash. The appliance would be a
rackmount 2 drive hardware mirror, AMD proc., with tape drive. Yes,
it would be built on Linux. You would manage the appliance with a web
browser and it would do nothing but feed it the daily tapes, keep it
in a cool, dust-free environment, and give it a nice UPS.
An interesting business opportunity for sure, best of luck on your project.
So, newbies, if you are looking for the "VB" in Linux, look no
further than PHP. It has matured.
I''ll agree to that. I have fallen in love with PHP this past year. I
slaved away with PERL and shell scripting for years to build server side
tools and interfaces as a systems administrator. Then I found PHP, and
while it started as a need to fix some web page tools, I soon found PHP
was very good off the web too. I now do all my coding in PHP.... PERL,
and BASH scripts are a thing of the past for me. I now actually enjoy
coding again. Most of the stuff I''m doing uses Postgresql as a database
and custom sockets for interfacing to business systems. It is amazing
how much easier it is because of PHP.
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Pham Nuwen wrote:
Google Mike wrote:I guess I''m talking to get this off my chest.
An excellent post.
If PHP is the VB of Linux, what is the Fosters ?
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Pham Nuwen <ph***********@libertydice.org> wrote in message
IMHO Postgresql is WAY ahead of MySQL, and has been for a couple of
years. Postgresql I believe is only a year or two from being real
competition to Oracle.
I guess I just don''t know enough about Postgresql. I would think this
would be very useful information to know when doing a PHP project. I''d
really rather go full open source with my projects, so perhaps I need
to give it a try.
I did notice at my rinky dink bookstore here in Florence, South
Carolina, though, that there were 5 books on Postgresql and about 12
books on either LAMP or MySQL. Last year, I never even knew Postgresql
existed. So, it looks like it''s gaining on mindshare. I have to also
think that I have to sell my solutions to IT Departments. Right now,
they know LAMP. If I said this isn''t LAMP, but LAPP, I just don''t know
if they''d "get" it.
I noticed that RH9 comes with it and it looks about as easy as MySQL
to fire up from the services control panel.
MySQL has a pretty reliable GUI called MySQL Command Console (mysqlcc)
that makes things super easy for me, like using MS Access or MS SQL
Server. Is there an equivalent on Postgresql?
MySQL is very fast because it''s not full ANSI-92, but, for the most
part, a useful subset of that. Because Postgresql is ANSI-92 to the
nines, wouldn''t you think it would be far slower?
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