优秀的C ++团队在哪里存在？ [英] Where do good C++ teams exist ?

问题描述

大家好，


这不是一个C ++技术问题，因此

这是一个非主题的帖子。但它是C ++

相关并仅发布给这个群体。


假设，今天像帝国大厦这样的建筑物

建筑或Petronas Towers即将建成。

建筑师设计和公司/团队

建设这将是一个

专家并且具有建造相同尺寸的建筑物的经验。


现在假设一个巨大，可靠，可扩展且具有良好性能的b $ b b b软件系统是用C ++构建的
。在这里，建筑师

和实施它的团队将是

有人知道哪个架构将最好用于哪个软件模块

给定的要求。显然，这里再次，

团队将在早期构建

类似规模的软件项目方面有经验。


一旦团队有了建立了这个软件系统，

他们继续建立另一个这样的系统

给别人。


我的问题是怎么做我成为了这样一个C ++团队的一部分，这些团队实施了一个接一个的具有挑战性的项目。 （显然，

大型系统不会只包含C ++。）

是正确的词:-)）真的存在于第一个

的地方？


试图通过网络了解这些团队

可能需要很长时间。尝试检查工作网站时，同样需要

。甚至像

topcoder.com这样的网站似乎主要由一个

男子军队组成。


谢谢

Diwakar

Hi All,

This is not a C++ technical question, hence
this is an off-topic post. But it is C++
related and posted only to this group.

Suppose, today a building like Empire State
building or Petronas Towers is to be built.
The architect designing and the company/team
building this would be somebody who is an
expert in this and has experience with
construting buildings of comparable sizes.

Now suppose a huge, reliable, scalable and a
good performance software system is to be
built in C++. Here again, the architect
and the team which implements it would be
somebody who knows which architecture would
be best for which software module for the
given requirement. Obviously, here again,
the team would have experience in constructing
similar size software projects earlier.

Once the team has built this software system,
they move on to build another such system
for somebody else.

My question is how do I get to become a part
of such C++ teams which implement one
challenging project after another. (Obviously,
large systems would not comprise of only C++.)

Do these kind of C++ team (maybe warriors would
be right word :-)) really exist in the first
place?

Trying to know such teams through networking
may take a long time. And the same goes by
trying to check on job sites. Even sites like
topcoder.com seem to consist mostly of one
man army.

Thanks
Diwakar

推荐答案

Diwa写道：

Diwa wrote:

大家好，

Hi All,

>这些C ++团队（也许是战士会

>Do these kind of C++ team (maybe warriors would

是正确的词:-) ）真的存在于第一个

的地方？

谢谢

Diwakar

be right word :-)) really exist in the first
place?
Thanks
Diwakar

是的，这样的团队确实存在但是，它们很少以这种方式打上烙印，因为构建我的C ++项目，因此它们是b $ b。很少是为b
提供资金支持的激励因素。更常见的是，这些团队是为一个项目而组装的，例如建立高频交易系统等。或建立一个网页

内容索引器或将我的Office应用程序移植到手持设备上。这些

团队将使用C ++作为他们选择的主要工具。


但是消息是要加入顶级人才，你需要的不仅仅是C ++

- 您需要知道如何在该行业中应用C ++。


怎么办？首先，找到一个广泛使用C ++的行业 - 我在财务部门工作

，但我在嵌入式系统中开始了我的C ++编码经验。

作为反例，e -commerce没有那么多的C ++在继续。

然后加入该领域的公司（你可以通过搜索想要的广告来了解什么

行业使用C ++） 。

加入一个与使用C ++的区域相关的开源项目，这个

将向您的未来雇主展示您对该业务的认真态度

以及只是C ++编码。但是当你接受采访时，不要接受他们，就像他们应该帮你一个忙，给你一个机会。

告诉他们你要去做什么带到你的桌子上，招聘你的是

为他们帮忙。


祝你好运!!

Yes such teams do exists. However, they are rarely branded this way,
since "build me C++ project" is rarely a motivating factor for
financial backing. More often, these teams are assembled for a project,
such as "build a High Frequency Trading System" or "build a Web Page
Content Indexer" or "port my Office Application to a handheld." These
teams would use C++ as their main tool of choice.

But the message is that to join the top talent, you need more than C++
-- you need to know how to apply C++ in that industry.

What to do? First, find an industry where C++ is widely used -- I work
in Finance, but I started my C++ coding experience in Embedded Systems.
As a counter example, e-commerce does not have that much C++ going on.
Then join a company in that field ( you can get a feel for what
industries use C++ by scouring want ads).
Join a Open Source Project related to that area that uses C++, this
will show your prospective employer you are serious about the business
as well as just C++ coding. But when you do get an interview, don''t
approach them like they should do you a favor and give you a chance.
Show them what you are going to bring to the table, that hiring you is
doing them a favor.

Good luck!!

la*********@nyc.rr .com 写道：

但是消息是要加入顶级人才，你需要的不仅仅是C ++

- 您需要知道如何在该行业中应用C ++。


怎么办？首先，找到一个广泛使用C ++的行业 - 我在财务部门工作

，但我在嵌入式系统中开始了我的C ++编码经验。

作为反例，e -commerce没有那么多的C ++在继续。

然后加入该领域的公司（你可以通过搜索想要的广告来了解什么

行业使用C ++） 。

加入一个与使用C ++的区域相关的开源项目，这个

将向您的未来雇主展示您对该业务的认真态度

以及只是C ++编码。但是当你接受采访时，不要接受他们，就像他们应该帮你一个忙，给你一个机会。

告诉他们你要去做什么带到你的桌子上，雇用你的是b $ b帮他们一个忙。

But the message is that to join the top talent, you need more than C++
-- you need to know how to apply C++ in that industry.

What to do? First, find an industry where C++ is widely used -- I work
in Finance, but I started my C++ coding experience in Embedded Systems.
As a counter example, e-commerce does not have that much C++ going on.
Then join a company in that field ( you can get a feel for what
industries use C++ by scouring want ads).
Join a Open Source Project related to that area that uses C++, this
will show your prospective employer you are serious about the business
as well as just C++ coding. But when you do get an interview, don''t
approach them like they should do you a favor and give you a chance.
Show them what you are going to bring to the table, that hiring you is
doing them a favor.

是的，告诉他们你知道如何正确编写

comp.lang.c ++ - 批准的C ++，它遵守所有的规则

Sutter-Alexandrescu的书，其他人都不称职，因为他们不遵守这些规则。这会让你非常受欢迎...


实际上有两种类型 - 程序员知道一点生意

和商界人士知道一个一点点编程。并且它是后者

，其程序通常根据规范运行，因为他们知道规格是什么

。令人惊讶的是，他们在文档方面也有多么糟糕，至少用一种普通人会理解的方式来描述事物。


奇怪的是开发团队的频率会议正在讨论

商业问题，而不是讨论他们创建的类库...


或许我已经只是运气不好，并为所有错误的

公司工作。

Yeah, show them that you know how to write proper
comp.lang.c++-approved C++, that obeys all the rules in the
Sutter-Alexandrescu book and that everyone else is incompetent because
they don''t follow these rules. That will make you very very popular...

Actually there are two types - programmers who know a bit of business
and business-people who know a bit of programming. And it''s the latter
whose programs usually run according to the spec because they know what
the spec is. Amazing how bad they are at documentation too, at least in
describing things in a way an ordinary person would understand.

Strange also how often the development team meetings are discussing
business issues and not discussing what class libraries they have just
created.

Or perhaps I''ve just been unlucky and worked for all the wrong
companies.

la ********* @ nyc.rr.com 写道：

la*********@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Diwa写道：

Diwa wrote:

嗨全部，

Hi All,

做这些C ++团队（也许是战士会

Do these kind of C++ team (maybe warriors would

是否正确的字:-)）真的存在于第一个

的地方？

be right word :-)) really exist in the first
place?

是的，这样的团队确实存在。但是，它们很少以这种方式打上烙印，因为构建我的C ++项目，因此它们是b $ b。很少是为b
提供资金支持的激励因素。更常见的是，这些团队是为一个项目而组装的，例如建立高频交易系统等。或建立一个网页

内容索引器或将我的Office应用程序移植到手持设备上。这些

团队将使用C ++作为他们选择的主要工具。

Yes such teams do exists. However, they are rarely branded this way,
since "build me C++ project" is rarely a motivating factor for
financial backing. More often, these teams are assembled for a project,
such as "build a High Frequency Trading System" or "build a Web Page
Content Indexer" or "port my Office Application to a handheld." These
teams would use C++ as their main tool of choice.

你就在这里。但是一旦系统建成，团队会发生什么事情。大多数人可能会留下

来做维护。哪些团队

继续构建另一个C ++系统？

You are right here. But what happens to the team once
the system has been built. Most would probably stay
around to do maintenance of that. Where are the teams
which move on to build another C++ system ?

祝你好运！

Good luck!!

谢谢。

Thanks.

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