放入数据库的艺术有多少？ [英] How much art to put into database?

问题描述

最近一个技术论坛的用户界面发生了变化我经常在功能方面引发激烈争论。

look''n''feel专业应用。这让我很奇怪：

多少装饰我应该放入我的数据库吗？我想看看

一般意见是什么。


我明白放入相框（公司徽标，
）
示例）在Access中导致一定数量的前端膨胀，

并且应该避免在表格上除非特别要求，并且

在报告中明智地使用在必要时。那么文字字体/

样式和表格颜色呢？如何在Access默认交换机上添加类似

的颜色矩形？使用标签的黑色副本在文本后面留下阴影

标签？你在哪里画线

在视觉和特征之间？这会增加使用率和那些仅仅是眼睛糖果的价格吗？


我希望我不会浪费你宝贵的时间发布这个。我只想听听你对这个问题的看法。


艾伦

A recent change in the user interface of one of the tech forums I
frequent prompted furious debates in the areas of functionality versus
look''n''feel of professional applications. This has made me wonder:
how much "decor" should I put into my database? I''d like to see what
the general opinion is.

I understand that putting in Picture Frames (for company logos, for
example) in Access leads to a certain amount of front end bloating,
and should be avoided on forms unless specifically requested for, and
used judiciously in reports where necessary. What about text fonts /
styles and form colour? What about adding colour rectangles like the
ones on the Access default switchboard? Drop shadows behind text
labels by using a black copy of the label? Where do you draw the line
between visual "features" that increase usabitlity and ones that are
just eye candy?

I hope I''m not wasting your valuable time posting this. I just want
to hear your thoughts on the issue.

Alan

推荐答案

我认为这是一个重要的话题，而不是因为膨胀。

对于拥有2 Gb或RAM和250 Gb HD的PC，腹胀不是主要的
我认为，
问题了。但是我确信减少用户使用软件和增加软件的易用性是成功数据库设计的关键因素，因为DB是一种应用程序

人们一次花费数小时使用。

我在软件人体工程学方面进行了搜索，而且主题是相当的b / b
反对。它似乎仍然在很大程度上取决于个人的优惠价格，并且不容易获得真实的研究事实。因此，为了我自己的卑微目的，我尝试按照已知的颜色方案来引导某些心理状态：浅色调，绿色为主要

形式背景 - 绿色放松眼睛，让用户平静下来。蓝色

在搜索屏幕上 - 它提高了注意力水平。黄色标签

背景，不是表格背景 - 注意！一种消息;我

避免红色并仅将其用于注意消息的文本面部颜色。

小徽标使用户感觉他们的公司很重要而且他/她是$ b软件真的是定制的，但我没有充分理由省略它们 -

坏男孩，我会给他们退款:-)我不惜一切代价避免交换机

观察了几个沮丧的用户试图通过2 / b
级别的交换机来获取有用的表格。我们在任何其他软件中都看不到像

交换机那样 - 我几乎从来没有看到他们需要它们在我的数据库中有
，有一些标签控件可以用于同样的目的而且

对用户来说更加直观。

我绝对不是说这是最好的做事方式但我坚持要求人们制作其他人的工具必须考虑用户的价值和工具人体工程学。你注意到钳子在

的同一侧有手柄，而不是相反，虽然这样也行。我认为我们

也必须遵循人体工学设计规则。

我注意到我可以使用Mac OS9连续工作10小时。我的眼睛在PC上2小时内感到疲倦。是不是因为Apple（或许是b $ b）是唯一一家拥有软件人体工程学工程师的b $ b b员工的大公司？我不确定，但它可能很好。


Pavel


" Andante.in.Blue"写道：

I think this is an important topic, and not because of the "bloating".
With PCs having 2 Gb or RAM and 250 Gb HDs, bloating is not a major
issue anymore, I think. However I am convinced that reducing user
fatique and increasing the ease of use of the software are key factors
to successful database design because DBs are kind of applications
people spend hours at a time using.
I did searches on software ergonomics and the subject is quite
contraversial. It seems to still remain largely a matter of personal
preference, with real research facts not easily available. Therefore for
my own humble purposes I try to follow the color schemes that are known
to induce certain mental states: light pastel palette, green for main
form background - green relaxes the eyes and calms the user down. Blue
on search screens - it increases attention level. Yellow label
backgrounds, not form backgrounds - for Attention! kind of messages; I
avoid red and use it only for text face color for Attention messages.
Small logos make the user feel that their company is important and thair
software is really custom, but I keep omitting them for no good reason -
bad boy, I will give them a refund :-) I avoid switchboards at all costs
after observing several frustrated users trying to navigate through 2
levels of switchboards to get to useful forms. We see nothing like
switchboards in any other software - I almost never see a need for them
in my DBs, there are tab controls that can serve the same purpose and
are far more intuitive to the users.
I am ABSOLUTELY NOT saying this is the best way of doing things but I
insist that people making tools for other people must think of the users
fatique and tools ergonomics. You notice that pliers have handles on the
same side, not on the opposite, although that would work too. I think we
must follow the ergonomic design rules, too.
I notice that I can work 10 hrs in a row using Mac OS9. My eyes get
tired in 2 hrs at the PC. Is it due to the fact that Apple is (perhaps,
was) the only major company who had software ergonomics engineers on
staff? I don''t know for sure but it may very well be.

Pavel

"Andante.in.Blue" wrote:

我最近在其中一个技术论坛的用户界面上发生了变化，引发了功能性领域的激烈辩论。 ''对专业应用的感觉。这让我很奇怪：
多少装饰我应该放入我的数据库吗？我想看看一般意见是什么。

我知道在Access中放入相框（用于公司徽标，用于
示例）会导致某种情况除非特别要求，否则应避免在表格上使用前端膨胀的数量，并在必要时在报告中明智地使用。文本字体/
样式和表单颜色怎么样？如何在Access默认交换机上添加类似
的矩形？使用标签的黑色副本在文本
标签后面留下阴影？你在哪里画出视觉和特征之间的线？那些增加了普遍性和那些只是眼睛糖果的东西？

我希望我不会浪费你宝贵的时间来发布这个。我只想听听你对这个问题的想法。

Alan

A recent change in the user interface of one of the tech forums I
frequent prompted furious debates in the areas of functionality versus
look''n''feel of professional applications. This has made me wonder:
how much "decor" should I put into my database? I''d like to see what
the general opinion is.

I understand that putting in Picture Frames (for company logos, for
example) in Access leads to a certain amount of front end bloating,
and should be avoided on forms unless specifically requested for, and
used judiciously in reports where necessary. What about text fonts /
styles and form colour? What about adding colour rectangles like the
ones on the Access default switchboard? Drop shadows behind text
labels by using a black copy of the label? Where do you draw the line
between visual "features" that increase usabitlity and ones that are
just eye candy?

I hope I''m not wasting your valuable time posting this. I just want
to hear your thoughts on the issue.

Alan

恕我直言：少即是多！ br />

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" Andante.in.Blue" < 05 ******** @ sneakemail.com>在消息中写道

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IMHO: Less is more!

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"Andante.in.Blue" <05********@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:bc**************************@posting.google.c om...

我最近在其中一个技术论坛的用户界面上发生了变化，引发了功能性领域的激烈辩论，而不是专业应用程序的外观。 。这让我很奇怪：
多少装饰我应该放入我的数据库吗？我想看看一般意见是什么。

我知道在Access中放入相框（用于公司徽标，用于
示例）会导致某种情况除非特别要求，否则应避免在表格上使用前端膨胀的数量，并在必要时在报告中明智地使用。文本字体/
样式和表单颜色怎么样？如何在Access默认交换机上添加类似
的矩形？使用标签的黑色副本在文本
标签后面留下阴影？你在哪里画出视觉和特征之间的线？那些增加了普遍性和那些只是眼睛糖果的东西？

我希望我不会浪费你宝贵的时间来发布这个。我只想听听你对这个问题的想法。

Alan

A recent change in the user interface of one of the tech forums I
frequent prompted furious debates in the areas of functionality versus
look''n''feel of professional applications. This has made me wonder:
how much "decor" should I put into my database? I''d like to see what
the general opinion is.

I understand that putting in Picture Frames (for company logos, for
example) in Access leads to a certain amount of front end bloating,
and should be avoided on forms unless specifically requested for, and
used judiciously in reports where necessary. What about text fonts /
styles and form colour? What about adding colour rectangles like the
ones on the Access default switchboard? Drop shadows behind text
labels by using a black copy of the label? Where do you draw the line
between visual "features" that increase usabitlity and ones that are
just eye candy?

I hope I''m not wasting your valuable time posting this. I just want
to hear your thoughts on the issue.

Alan

05 ******** @ sneakemail.com （Andante.in.Blue）在留言中写道：< bc *** ***********************@posting.google。 com> ...

....这让我想知道：

05********@sneakemail.com (Andante.in.Blue) wrote in message news:<bc**************************@posting.google. com>...
....This has made me wonder:

多少装饰我应该放入我的数据库吗？我想看看一般意见是什么。


好​​的 - 这是我2美分的价值。我知道有很多观点

表示在界面设计上。 /usabililty如果你也回来搜索。


....文字字体/样式和表格颜色怎么样？如何在Access默认交换机上添加类似
的矩形？使用标签的黑色副本在文本
标签后面留下阴影？你在哪里画出视觉和特征之间的线？增加使用率和那些只是眼睛糖果的东西？


我的一般规则是平原更好。恕我直言<穿上防火

西装>使用Windows标准。只是因为你可以为列表视图的背景颜色设置荧光绿并不意味着它应该是

。


你可以从诸如Microsoft

Windows用户体验等书籍中获取有关MS标准的信息。 （我觉得现在有点老）或类似的。参见

示例：

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...92617?v=glance


对于

一般的用户界面的娱乐性和有时激进的观点，我发现Alan Cooper很有价值。例如：

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...92617?v=glance

我希望我''我不会浪费你宝贵的时间发布这个。我只想听听你对这个问题的想法。

how much "decor" should I put into my database? I''d like to see what
the general opinion is.
Okay - here is my 2 cents worth. I know there are a number of views
expressed on "interface design" / "usabililty" if you search back too.

....What about text fonts / styles and form colour? What about adding colour rectangles like the
ones on the Access default switchboard? Drop shadows behind text
labels by using a black copy of the label? Where do you draw the line
between visual "features" that increase usabitlity and ones that are
just eye candy?
My general rule is that plain is better. IMHO <puts on flame proof
suit> use Windows standards. Just because you CAN colour the
background of a list view fluorescent green does not mean it should
be.

You can get information on MS standards from books like "Microsoft
Windows User Experience" (now a bit old I think) or similar. See for
example:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...92617?v=glance

For an entertaining and sometimes radical view on user interfaces in
general, I find Alan Cooper great value. See for example:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...92617?v=glance
I hope I''m not wasting your valuable time posting this. I just want
to hear your thoughts on the issue.

在我看来，这是一个非常重要的问题。我想我们大多数人都会看到一些可怕的用户界面混乱，并且问这个问题是开始区别于那些不知道的开发人员。 />
他们不知道的东西"当谈到界面设计时。


祝你好运

Stuart

In my view, this is a VERY important issue. I think most of us will
have seen some awful UI messes and asking this question is the
beginning of distinguishing yourself from developers who "don''t know
what they don''t know" when it comes to interface design.

Best wishes
Stuart

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