需要帮助澄清使用VBxxx创建网页... [英] Need help clarifying use of VBxxx for creating webpages ...

问题描述

我非常了解VB5 / VBA，但没有使用VB来创建网页，但是需要这样做才能获得。


可以有人解释目的VBScript和

VB.NET之间的差异来创建网页？


Visual Web Developer Express Edition和Microsoft
$ b $的位置b Frontpage是否适合图片？


使用Microsoft工具创建网站

似乎有一系列令人眼花缭乱的选择。

感谢任何帮助。


布鲁克斯

I know VB5/VBA very well but have not used VB to create web pages but
need to do so.

Can someone explain the purposes and differences between VBScript and
VB.NET to create web pages?

Also where do Visual Web Developer Express Edition and Microsoft
Frontpage fit into the picture?

It seems there are a bewildering array of choices in creating websites
using Microsoft tools.

Appreciate any help.

Brooks

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brooksr写道：

brooksr wrote:

我非常了解VB5 / VBA但是没有使用VB来创建网页，但是需要这样做。

需要这样做。


有人可以解释VBScript和

VB.NET之间的目的和区别来创建网页吗？


另外在哪里做Visual Web Developer Express Edition和Microsoft

Frontpage适合图片？


使用微软工具创建网站

似乎有一系列令人眼花缭乱的选择。

I know VB5/VBA very well but have not used VB to create web pages but
need to do so.

Can someone explain the purposes and differences between VBScript and
VB.NET to create web pages?

Also where do Visual Web Developer Express Edition and Microsoft
Frontpage fit into the picture?

It seems there are a bewildering array of choices in creating websites
using Microsoft tools.

当你考虑使用非MS工具时更加困惑，比如

Dreamweaver或Cold Fusion。


vbscript用于"经典" asp，这个新的组层次结构覆盖。

VB.Net用于ASP.Net，这是一种完全不同的技术

由dotnet中的新闻组覆盖。层次结构，特别是

microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet，以及论坛
www.asp.net


差异？我将从语言开始：vbscript是一种有限的

脚本语言。 VB.Net是一种成熟的面向对象语言。


经典ASP本质上是服务器端代码，它生成html，即传递给客户端的
。与客户端的唯一交互是通过

Request对象完成的，该对象具有集合（Request.Form和Request.Querystring）

包含通过表单提交从客户端传递的数据，和

响应对象，用于将html传递给客户端浏览器。因此，在asp服务器端代码和客户端

dhtml代码之间有明确的界限。

我们尝试专注于这个

组中的服务器端编码问题，将客户端脚本问题指向

microsoft.public.scripting.jscript。这是ASP Scripting

文档的链接：
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...f33a651779.asp

ASP.Net更具互动性。它提供了gui控件，可以通过回发触发服务器端代码中的
事件。因此，服务器端

和客户端事件之间的界限肯定是模糊的。与解释的vbscript代码相比，编译代码具有性能

Benefis。


Frontpage，我们很多人甚至都不使用，打算使用在所见即所得的环境中创建

html页面。我们大多数人不使用它的原因是：

1.早期版本会弄乱我们的asp服务器端代码

2.它会造成蹩脚，臃肿，非标准的HTML

3.它阻止开发人员学习HTML，这真的是一个必不可少的b $ b技能，特别是在经典的asp世界中（不要误解我：它仍然是ASP.Net世界中必不可少的
）以下是一些专注于

HTML和CSS的grojup： http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?sel=33584039

我想不出有什么理由使用Frontpage进行ASP.Net开发：在

的事实上，MS正在逐步淘汰产品


VWD可用于两者经典的ASP和ASP.Net应用程序，但是

绝对更适合ASP.Net。

IMO，ASP.Net旨在让网站开发体验更加紧密。 >
到VB5 / 6应用程序开发玩具体验，所以你可能会比ASP.Net而不是经典ASP更好。


Bob Barrows


-

Microsoft MVP - ASP / ASP.NET

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It''s even more bewildering when you consider non-MS tools such as
Dreamweaver or Cold Fusion.

vbscript is used in "classic" asp, which this newgroup hierarchy covers.
VB.Net is used in ASP.Net, which is a completely different technology
covered by newsgroups in the "dotnet" hierarchy, specifically
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet, as well as the forums at
www.asp.net

The differences? I''ll start with the languages: vbscript is a limited
scripting language. VB.Net is a full-blown object-oriented language.

Classic ASP is essentially server-side code which generates html which is
passed to the client. The only interaction with the client is done via the
Request object which has collections (Request.Form and Request.Querystring)
containing data passed from the client via form submissions, and the
Response object which is use to pass html to the client browser. So there is
a definite line of demarcation between asp server-side code and client-side
dhtml code. We try to concentrate on server-side coding questios in this
group, directing client-side scripting questions to
microsoft.public.scripting.jscript. Here is a link to the ASP Scripting
documentation:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...f33a651779.asp

ASP.Net is more interactive. It provides gui controls that can trigger
events in server-side code via postbacks. So the line between server-side
and client-side events is definitely blurred. Compiled code has performance
benefis compared to the interpreted vbscript code.

Frontpage, which many of us don''t even use, is intended to be used to create
html pages in a wysiwyg environment. The reason most of us don''t use it is:
1. earlier versions would mess up our asp server-side code
2. it creates crappy, bloated, nonstandard html
3. it prevents developers from learning html, which is really an essential
skill, especially in the classic asp world (don''t get me wrong: it is still
essential in the ASP.Net world) Here are some grojups that concentrate on
HTML and CSS: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?sel=33584039
I cannot think of a reason to use Frontpage for ASP.Net development: in
fact, MS is phasing the product out

VWD can be used with both classic ASPand ASP.Net applications, but is
definitely more geared toward ASP.Net.
IMO, ASP.Net was intended to bring the website development experience closer
to the VB5/6 application development experience, so you would probably be
better off starting with ASP.Net rather than classic ASP.

Bob Barrows

--
Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap so I
don''t check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then remove the
"NO SPAM"

非常感谢该帖子，Bob，它'太棒了。可能要花费一些时间让我接受这一切。


让我问一些跟进问题：


所以VBScript和（普通）ASP是''经典ASP''，而VB.NET和ASP.NET

是''现代''ASP？


我知道VB.NET是Visual Studios的一部分，免费的

版本VB Express可供下载，可能会遇到很多

的开发人员''需要......


所以服务器端代码驻留在我将使用的网站托管网站上。如果您没有使用FP，那么如何将代码放到服务器上？你还是以某种方式发布它吗？


当你谈到客户端时，你基本上是指用户访问

通过浏览器上网，比如IE，是吗？


我读到许多VB开发人员甚至一些书籍作者都生气了

如何更改Msft VB从VB6迁移到VB.NET，但似乎不值得浪费时间。/ b
。此外，移动到完整的互联网环境可能需要进行大幅度的改动......


ASP.NET是一种语言吗？它是否有一个所见即所得的界面可以用
代替FP'？如果没有，什么是FP的良好替代品？ （我拥有97

和2000版本）。


我还有点不清楚VWD和VBE是如何相互关联的？如果我学习VWD，我还需要VBE吗？如果我需要两者，我应该先学习

？


什么是dhtml以及它与html的区别？


Brooks

Thanks so much for that post, Bob, it''s excellent. Probably going to
take some time for me to absorb it all.

Let me ask some follow up questions:

So VBScript and (plain) ASP are ''classic ASP'', while VB.NET and ASP.NET
are ''modern'' ASP?

I understand that VB.NET is a part of Visual Studios and that a free
version, VB Express, is available for download and may meet many
developers'' needs ...

So server side code resides on a web hosting site that I would use. If
you are not using FP, how do you get the code onto the server? Do you
still ''publish'' it somehow?

When you speak of client side, you basically mean a user accessing the
internet via a browser, like IE, correct?

I read that many VB developers and even some book authors were angry at
how Msft changed VB in moving from VB6 to VB.NET, but it seems like a
moot point not worth wasting time on. Also, maybe drastic changes were
necessary to move to a full internet environment ...

So is ASP.NET a language? Does it have a wysiwyg interface that can
replace FP''s? If not, what is a good substitute for FP? (I own the 97
and 2000 versions of it).

I''m still a little unclear how VWD and VBE relate to one another? If I
learn VWD do I still need VBE? If I need both, which should I learn
first?

What is dhtml and how does it differ from html?

Brooks

还有一些问题...


不是一个聪明人，但如果你觉得VBScript和经典的ASP比ASP.NET好，那你为什么要在这个论坛上花些时间？由于遗留代码，它是否是b $ b？


为什么客户端脚本应该用jscript编写？是不是jscript，

只是VBScript的C / C ++ / Java版本？

A few more questions ...

Not to be a wise guy, but if you feel VBScript and classic ASP are
inferior to ASP.NET, why would you spend your time in this forum? Is
it because of legacy code?

Why should client side scripting be written in jscript? Isn''t jscript,
just the C/C++/Java version of VBScript?

我们试着专注于服务器端编码在这个

组中的问题，将客户端脚本问题指向

microsoft.public.scripting.jscript。

We try to concentrate on server-side coding questios in this
group, directing client-side scripting questions to
microsoft.public.scripting.jscript.

Brooks

Brooks

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