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问题描述
1。你的下一个操作系统是Windows吗？
2.你的下一个浏览器是否会成为Internet Explorer？
3.你的下一个办公套件是MS Office XXXX？
4.您的下一个电子邮件客户端是Outlook还是Outlook Express？
5.您的下一个数据库服务器是MS-SQL吗？
6.您的开发技术是Access还是Something.Net？
您是否一点一点地发现MS你电脑的主导地位有所降低吗？
10年左右，我都是MS。然后是IE
及其成为Windows的一部分的安全问题出现了。我有一个非常糟糕的经历
与ADP。 （我不介意不得不创造一些kludges;但如果该死的
kludge将在周三工作，那么我预计它将在周四工作
！） 。我开始使用Firefox和Thunderbird。而且我意识到我有一个完整版的Office 2003，花费了不少钱，几台电脑和几台计算机上的XP，以及他们非常的
很少使用。我从SourceForge下载了一些开源软件。
我使用了Quattro Pro的副本几周（距离这个神话般的程序好几年之后）。在我看来，Excel是有史以来营销力量的最大证据。比尔是如何让这个美丽，优雅和强大的Quattro Pro赢得PIG的赢家，这让我心怀不已。一堆飞机区域是否与3-d相同？ Nooooooooooooooooo！
我正处于MS似乎远不如以往那么精彩的地步，并且
可能是一个然后而不是现在的事情。
我准备保释。唯一的问题是没有明确很好的途径来支付b $ b b保释金吗？你准备保释了吗？为什么不？为什么？哪里？什么时候？
MS的捍卫者在那里吗？
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Lyle
"那些试图控制思想的人的目标始终如一。他们
找到一个世界的单一解释，一个思想系统和
行动将（他们相信）涵盖一切;然后他们试着将b $ b强加给所有有思想的人。
- Gilbert Highet
1. Will your next operating system be Windows?
2. Will your next browser be Internet Explorer?
3. Will your next office suite be MS Office XXXX?
4. Will your next e-mail client be Outlook or Outlook Express?
5. Will your next database server be MS-SQL?
6. Will you development technology be Access or Something.Net?
Do you find that little by little MS''s dominance of your computer lessens?
For 10 or so years I was ALL MS. And then the security problems with IE
and its being part of Windows arose. And I had a tres bad experience
with ADPs. (I don''t mind having to create a few kludges; but if the damn
kludge will work on Wednesday then I expect it to work on Thursday
too!). And I started to use Firefox and Thunderbird. And I realized I
had a full version of Office 2003 that cost quite a few bucks sitting on
several computers, and XP on some others and that they were getting very
little use. And I downloaded some open source stuff from SourceForge.
And I used a copy of Quattro Pro for a few weeks (after years away from
this fabulous program). In my opinion Excel is the greatest evidence of
the power of marketing that ever existed. How Bill made that PIG the
winner over the beautiful, elegant and powerful Quattro Pro boggles my
mind. Are a bunch of regions of planes the same as 3-d? Nooooooooooooooooo!
I''m at the point where MS seems far from as wonderful as it used to, and
maybe a THEN and not a NOW thing.
I''m ready to bail. Only problem is there''s no clearly great route to
bail to? Are you ready to bail? Why not? Why? Where? When?
Are MS''s defenders out there?
--
--
Lyle
"The aim of those who try to control thought is always the same. They
find one single explanation of the world, one system of thought and
action that will (they believe) cover everything; and then they try to
impose that on all thinking people."
- Gilbert Highet
推荐答案
Lyle Fairfield写道：
Lyle Fairfield wrote:
1.您的下一个操作系统是Windows吗？
我刚安装了Linux（Suse 9.1）作为外观。
2.您的下一个浏览器是否会成为Internet Explorer？
已经使用Firefox并且现在正在使用Netscape 8.0（基于Firefox），
具有使用IE渲染页面的神奇能力/>
需要它，例如Windows更新。
3.您的下一个办公套件是MS Office XXXX吗？
OpenOffice.org打开我的所有MS文档（来自Office XP），Access除外:-(
4.您的下一个电子邮件客户端是Outlook还是Outlook Express？
看看我的标题:-)（Thunderbird，和你一样）
5.你的下一个数据库服务器是MS-SQL吗？
是。
6.您的开发技术是Access还是Something.Net？
我们开始使用C＃从Access迁移到.Net虽然
Access将在几年内变得很大。
你是否发现MS一点一点地对你的计算机的主导地位减少了？
大约10年左右我都是MS。然后出现IE的安全问题
及其成为Windows的一部分。我和ADP一起经历了糟糕的经历。 （我不介意不得不创造一些kludges;但如果该死的
kludge将在星期三工作，那么我希望它也能在星期四工作
！）。我开始使用Firefox和Thunderbird。而且我意识到我有一个完整版的Office 2003，它在几台计算机上花费了不少钱，在其他一些计算机上花了很多钱，并且它们的使用非常少。我从SourceForge下载了一些开源软件。
我使用了Quattro Pro的副本几周（距离这个神话般的程序几年之后）。在我看来，Excel是有史以来营销力量的最好证据。比尔如何让PIG成为优秀而优雅且功能强大的Quattro Pro的赢家，这让我心生畏惧。一堆飞机区域是否与3-d相同？ Nooooooooooooooooo！
我正处于MS似乎远不如以往那么精彩的地步，而且
可能是现在而不是现在的事情。
我是'我准备保释。唯一的问题是没有明确很好的途径来保释吗？你准备保释了吗？为什么不？为什么？哪里？什么时候？
Excel是天赐之物，上帝发送它来测试我们对他的信念:-)严重地说
虽然，人们似乎认为Excel是蜜蜂''膝盖并将其用于除电子表格之外的其他所有内容，例如数据传输（ahem，CSV，
XML，管道分隔在过去都有效，而Access vs Excel在
数据传输是一场噩梦）。
在哈萨克斯坦（在外拍轮换环境中）工作时，在拍摄他的移交时，ex-pats有一些格式问题
关于他的b2b的笔记，我问他为什么用Excel作为一个单词
处理器，他说他不喜欢这个词：-\
是MS'在那里的防守者？
1. Will your next operating system be Windows?
I just installed Linux (Suse 9.1) for a looksie.
2. Will your next browser be Internet Explorer?
Already use Firefox and now looking at Netscape 8.0 (based on Firefox),
which has the uncanny ability to utilise IE for rendering of pages that
require it, e.g. Windowsupdate.
3. Will your next office suite be MS Office XXXX?
OpenOffice.org opened all my MS docs (from Office XP) except Access :-(
4. Will your next e-mail client be Outlook or Outlook Express?
Look at my headers :-) (Thunderbird, like you)
5. Will your next database server be MS-SQL?
Yes.
6. Will you development technology be Access or Something.Net?
We''re starting to make a move from Access to .Net using C# although
Access will figure big for a couple of years yet.
Do you find that little by little MS''s dominance of your computer lessens?
For 10 or so years I was ALL MS. And then the security problems with IE
and its being part of Windows arose. And I had a tres bad experience
with ADPs. (I don''t mind having to create a few kludges; but if the damn
kludge will work on Wednesday then I expect it to work on Thursday
too!). And I started to use Firefox and Thunderbird. And I realized I
had a full version of Office 2003 that cost quite a few bucks sitting on
several computers, and XP on some others and that they were getting very
little use. And I downloaded some open source stuff from SourceForge.
And I used a copy of Quattro Pro for a few weeks (after years away from
this fabulous program). In my opinion Excel is the greatest evidence of
the power of marketing that ever existed. How Bill made that PIG the
winner over the beautiful, elegant and powerful Quattro Pro boggles my
mind. Are a bunch of regions of planes the same as 3-d? Nooooooooooooooooo!
I''m at the point where MS seems far from as wonderful as it used to, and
maybe a THEN and not a NOW thing.
I''m ready to bail. Only problem is there''s no clearly great route to
bail to? Are you ready to bail? Why not? Why? Where? When?
Excel is a Godsend, God sent it to test our belief in him :-) Seriously
though, people seem to think Excel is the bee''s knees and use it for
everything other than spreadsheet use, e.g. data transfer (ahem, CSV,
XML, Pipe delimited have all worked in the past and Access vs Excel in
data transfer is a nightmare).
While working in Kazakhstan (in an Ex-pat rotation environment) one of
the ex-pats had some formatting problems while writing his handover
notes for his b2b, I asked him why he was using Excel as a word
processor and he said he didn''t like word :-\
Are MS''s defenders out there?
是的，我和他们一起工作过，他们都被称为Jeremy，dunno如果
，这很重要。
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[Oo = w = oO]
Yes, I worked with them both, they''re both called "Jeremy", dunno if
that''s significant.
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[Oo=w=oO]
2005年4月25日星期一00:03:36 -0400，Lyle Fairfield< ly ****** @ yahoo.ca>写道：
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:03:36 -0400, Lyle Fairfield <ly******@yahoo.ca> wrote:
1。您的下一个操作系统是Windows吗？
是的，还有......
2.您的下一个浏览器是否会成为Internet Explorer？
否（在浏览MSDN时，MS已确定Firefox无法正常工作）
3.您的下一个办公套件是否为MS Office XXXX？
或许
4.您的下一个电子邮件客户端是Outlook还是Outlook Express？
否
5.您的下一个数据库服务器是MS-SQL吗？
可能
6.您的开发技术是Access还是Something.Net？
不，但我可以看到回来做更多的事情。
你是否发现MS一点一点的计算机优势减轻？
是的，但是我可能总是会使用一些MS的东西。
大约10年左右我都是MS。然后出现IE的安全问题
及其成为Windows的一部分。我和ADP一起经历了糟糕的经历。 （我不介意不得不创造一些kludges;但如果该死的
kludge将在星期三工作，那么我希望它也能在星期四工作
！）。我开始使用Firefox和Thunderbird。而且我意识到我有一个完整版的Office 2003，它在几台计算机上花费了不少钱，在其他一些计算机上花了很多钱，并且它们的使用非常少。我从SourceForge下载了一些开源软件。
我使用了Quattro Pro的副本几周（距离这个神话般的程序几年之后）。在我看来，Excel是有史以来营销力量的最好证据。比尔如何让PIG成为优秀而优雅且功能强大的Quattro Pro的赢家，这让我心生畏惧。一堆飞机区域是否与3-d相同？ Nooooooooooooooooo！
我正处于MS似乎远不如以往那么精彩的地步，而且
可能是现在而不是现在的事情。
我是'我准备保释。唯一的问题是没有明确很好的途径来保释吗？你准备保释了吗？为什么不？为什么？哪里？什么时候？
MS的防守者在那里？
1. Will your next operating system be Windows?
Yes, and ...
2. Will your next browser be Internet Explorer?
No (except when browsing MSDN where MS has made sure Firefox doesn''t work)
3. Will your next office suite be MS Office XXXX?
Maybe
4. Will your next e-mail client be Outlook or Outlook Express?
No
5. Will your next database server be MS-SQL?
Possibly
6. Will you development technology be Access or Something.Net?
No, but I could see swinging back around to doing more with it.
Do you find that little by little MS''s dominance of your computer lessens?
Yes, but I''ll probably always use some MS stuff.
For 10 or so years I was ALL MS. And then the security problems with IE
and its being part of Windows arose. And I had a tres bad experience
with ADPs. (I don''t mind having to create a few kludges; but if the damn
kludge will work on Wednesday then I expect it to work on Thursday
too!). And I started to use Firefox and Thunderbird. And I realized I
had a full version of Office 2003 that cost quite a few bucks sitting on
several computers, and XP on some others and that they were getting very
little use. And I downloaded some open source stuff from SourceForge.
And I used a copy of Quattro Pro for a few weeks (after years away from
this fabulous program). In my opinion Excel is the greatest evidence of
the power of marketing that ever existed. How Bill made that PIG the
winner over the beautiful, elegant and powerful Quattro Pro boggles my
mind. Are a bunch of regions of planes the same as 3-d? Nooooooooooooooooo!
I''m at the point where MS seems far from as wonderful as it used to, and
maybe a THEN and not a NOW thing.
I''m ready to bail. Only problem is there''s no clearly great route to
bail to? Are you ready to bail? Why not? Why? Where? When?
Are MS''s defenders out there?
我认为自己既是防守者也是贬低者。对于他们所有的问题，MS
做了很多大事。哎呀，Access是我的面包和黄油比其他任何平台都要长b $ b。期间。
另一方面，MS有一个垄断的扼杀在市场上花了很长时间，并且他们已经用它来侥幸地给我们提供了很多几乎没有b $ b功能性垃圾，因为没有人拥有这个品牌名称与它竞争的影响力。
MS做过的一些事情（比如ADP）简直就是失误，但是每个人都犯了错误的b / b
错误，所以只有这么多我可以反对他们。
最近，我已经看到许多迹象表明MS正在努力寻找
编写应用程序通过设计安全，使用现代，敏捷的技术
来制作坚如磐石，灵活的代码。他们已经推出了更具成本效益的，b $ b全功能的开发环境，可以与开源Java工具和b等工具和IDE等竞争。最终，将会有一个Access.NET，虽然它看起来像我喜欢的一点点。
我认为我的未来涉及MS和非MS操作系统，开发
工具，办公应用程序以及其他软件和产品。我认为我使用的MS
产品可能会在现在开始处理的较高竞争对手的b / b
压力下变得更好，更具成本效益。
我的水晶球已经知道有点混浊了，但这就是它从这里看起来的样子
。
I see myself as both a defender and a detractor. For all their problems, MS
has done a lot of greate stuff. Heck, Access has been my bread and butter
longer than any other platform - period.
On the other hand, MS has had a monopolistic strangle-hold on the market for a
long time, and they''ve used it to get away with giving us a lot of barely
functional crap because no one had the brand name clout to compete with it.
Some of what MS has done (like ADPs) was simply blundered, but everyone makes
blunders, so there''s only so much of that I can hold against them.
Lately, I''ve seen a lot of signs that MS is trying hard to come around to
writing applications that are secure by design, using modern, agile techniques
to make rock-solid, flexible code. They''ve come out with more cost effective,
full-featured development environments to compete with the open source Java
tools and IDEs, etc. Eventually, there will be an Access.NET, though it looks
a little far off for my liking.
I see my future as involving both MS and non-MS operating systems, development
tools, office application, and other software and products. I think the MS
products I do use will likely get better and more cost effective under the
pressure of the higher competition MS is now starting to deal with.
My crystal ball has been known to be a bit cloudy, but that''s how it looks
from here.
2005年4月25日星期一05:40:20 -0500，Chuck Grimsby
< c。******* @ worldnet.att.net.invalid>写道：
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:40:20 -0500, Chuck Grimsby
<c.*******@worldnet.att.net.invalid> wrote:
2005年4月25日星期一00:40:48 -0700，Steve Jorgensen
< no **** @ nospam.nospam>写道：
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:40:48 -0700, Steve Jorgensen
<no****@nospam.nospam> wrote:
2。你的下一个浏览器是否会成为Internet Explorer？
2. Will your next browser be Internet Explorer?
否（除了浏览MS确认Firefox无法正常工作的MSDN）
No (except when browsing MSDN where MS has made sure Firefox doesn''t work)
下载用户代理切换器插件，史蒂夫。在转到MSDN之前，设置它告诉网站你正在使用IE浏览器，而且MSDN似乎也没关系。
不要在任何地方使用它然而。一些javascript函数在错误的设置下无法正常工作。
Download the "User Agent Switcher" plug-in, Steve. Before going to
MSDN, set it to tell sites that you''re using IE, and MSDN seems to be
OK with that.
Don''t use it everywhere however. Some javascript functions won''t work
properly with the wrong setting.
MSDN上有一些东西，它只是在FireFox中没有显示 - 例如，可扩展的
不会扩展的文本部分。
MSDN has stuff on it that just doesn''t display right in FireFox - expandable
text sections that won''t expand, for instance.
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