仅供参考：RIAA试图拔掉Usenet的插件。认真。 [英] FYI: RIAA tries to pull plug on Usenet. Seriously.
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2007年10月16日下午5:56 PDT
RIAA试图拔掉插头新闻组。说真的。
发布者Declan McCullagh
美国唱片业协会为版权诉讼找到了新的法律目标
：Usenet。<在10月12日提起的诉讼中，RIAA称Usenet新闻组
包含数百万受版权保护的录音。违反联邦
法律。
目前只有Usenet.com被命名为被告，但同样的逻辑将是
让RIAA起诉数百所大学，互联网服务提供商，以及其他新闻组档案。 AT& T提供Usenet，Verizon，斯坦福大学提供
大学和其他公司，包括Giganews。
这就是使这一诉讼变得重要的原因。如果RIAA可以赢得使用网络，那么其他Usenet提供商也会面临法律风险。
对于那些相对较新的人来说互联网，Usenet是一种非常流行的方式来分发会话和二进制文件，早在网络或点对点网络存在之前。它被分成几十个数不清的新闻组 - 按层次排列的讨论区域和
体育名称，如sci.med.aids，rec.motorcycles ，和comp.os.linux.admin。
少数会受到审核;大多数不是。为了提高效率，新闻组最近的帖子
存储在Usenet提供商的服务器上（而不是保存在用户计算机上的
）邮件列表是）。
一些新闻组，如alt.binaries.pictures，致力于分发
的二进制文件。与RIAA诉讼特别相关的是，
大约是652个新闻组，短语MP3。在他们的名字。 （对于存储
空间原因，并非所有Usenet提供商都提供二进制新闻组。例如，谷歌'
基于Web的Usernet接口不是。） br />
RIAA起诉Usenet.com，总部位于美国北达科他州Fargo，位于纽约南部的
区。该诉讼声称，Usenet.com鼓励其客户每月支付高达19美元的费用，通过使用受版权保护的音乐诱骗他们，并要求
获得永久性禁令，禁止该公司使用;帮助，鼓励，
启用，诱导，导致，实质性贡献或以其他方式支持b $ b促进版权侵权。
Usenet.com与其他一些帮助RIAA的新闻组提供商之间存在一些差异。 Usenet.com吹嘘为一个帐户签名
让你可以访问数百万个MP3文件而且
使你能够以相同的方式发布你自己的文件并分享他们带着
整个世界。
显然，他们的律师并没有首先使用这种语言。
那么RIAA会赢吗？由于这样的即兴自夸，他们有机会获得好的机会。美国最高法院对Grokster作出裁决的一个原因是，法官们认为StreamCast的高管曾试图引诱使用Morpheus应用程序的b
盗版。法官还说，
两家公司都没有过滤受版权保护的材料和Grokster和StreamCast雇用的商业模式
确认他们的主要对象是
使用他们的软件下载受版权保护的作品。
RIAA在这里所做的是一个经典的诉讼策略：起诉某人
a判断很可能会说是一个明显的罪犯，然后在针对某些边缘情况的人时调用这个决定
。 Usenet.com可能是第一个，换句话说就是
，但是像AT& T，Verizon和Stanford这样的新闻组提供商可能会接下来是b $ b。
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October 16, 2007 5:56 PM PDT
RIAA tries to pull plug on Usenet. Seriously.
Posted by Declan McCullagh
The Recording Industry Association of America has found a new legal target
for a copyright lawsuit: Usenet.
In a lawsuit filed on October 12, the RIAA says that Usenet newsgroups
contain "millions of copyrighted sound recordings" in violation of federal
law.
Only Usenet.com is named as a defendant for now, but the same logic would
let the RIAA sue hundreds of universities, Internet service providers, and
other newsgroup archives. AT&T offers Usenet, as does Verizon, Stanford
University and other companies including Giganews.
That''s what makes this lawsuit important. If the RIAA can win against
Usenet.com, other Usenet providers are at legal risk, too.
For those of you who are relative newcomers to the Internet, Usenet was a
wildly popular way to distribute conversations and binary files long before
the Web or peer-to-peer networks existed. It''s divided up into tens of
thousands of "newsgroups"--discussion areas arranged hierarchically and
sporting names like sci.med.aids, rec.motorcycles, and comp.os.linux.admin.
A handful are moderated; most are not. For efficiency''s sake, recent posts
to newsgroups are stored on the Usenet provider''s server (as opposed to
saved on a subscriber''s computer as mailing lists are).
Some newsgroups, like alt.binaries.pictures, are devoted to the distribution
of binary files. Of particular relevance to the RIAA lawsuit is that there
are around 652 newsgroups with the phrase "MP3" in their names. (For storage
space reasons, not all Usenet providers offer binary newsgroups. Google''s
Web-based interface to Usenet doesn''t, for instance.)
The RIAA sued Usenet.com, which is based in Fargo, N.D., in the southern
district of New York. The lawsuit claims Usenet.com encourages its customers
to pay up to $19 a month by enticing them with copyrighted music, and asks
for a permanent injunction barring the company from "aiding, encouraging,
enabling, inducing, causing, materially contributing to, or otherwise
facilitating" copyright infringement.
There are some differences between Usenet.com and some of the other
newsgroup providers that will help the RIAA. Usenet.com boasts that signing
up for an account "gives you access to millions of MP3 files and also
enables you to post your own files the same way and share them with the
whole world."
Clearly they didn''t run that language by their lawyers first.
So will the RIAA win? Thanks to improvident boasts like that, they stand a
good chance. One reason the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against Grokster is
that the justices believed that StreamCast''s executives had tried to lure
pirates into using the Morpheus application. The justices also said that
neither company filtered copyrighted material and "the business models
employed by Grokster and StreamCast confirm that their principal object was
use of their software to download copyrighted works."
What the RIAA''s doing here is a classic litigation strategy: sue someone who
a judge is likely to say is a clear offender, and then invoke that decision
when targeting someone who''s a more marginal case. Usenet.com may be first,
in other words, but newsgroup providers like AT&T, Verizon, and Stanford may
well be next.
推荐答案
19个月，用受版权保护的音乐诱惑他们，并要求获得永久性禁令，以禁止该公司帮助，鼓励，
启用，诱导，导致，实质性贡献或以其他方式支持b $ b促进版权侵权。
Usenet.com与其他一些帮助RIAA的新闻组提供商之间存在一些差异。 Usenet.com吹嘘为一个帐户签名
让你可以访问数百万个MP3文件而且
使你能够以相同的方式发布你自己的文件并分享他们带着
整个世界。
显然，他们的律师并没有首先使用这种语言。
那么RIAA会赢吗？由于这样的即兴自夸，他们有机会获得好的机会。美国最高法院对Grokster作出裁决的一个原因是，法官们认为StreamCast的高管曾试图引诱使用Morpheus应用程序的b
盗版。法官还说，
两家公司都没有过滤受版权保护的材料和Grokster和StreamCast雇用的商业模式
确认他们的主要对象是
使用他们的软件下载受版权保护的作品。
RIAA在这里所做的是一个经典的诉讼策略：起诉某人
a判断很可能会说是一个明显的罪犯，然后在针对某些边缘情况的人时调用这个决定
。换句话说，Usenet.com可能是第一个，换句话说就是
，但AT& T，Verizon和Stanford等新闻组提供商可能会接下来是b $ b。
19 a month by enticing them with copyrighted music, and asks
for a permanent injunction barring the company from "aiding, encouraging,
enabling, inducing, causing, materially contributing to, or otherwise
facilitating" copyright infringement.
There are some differences between Usenet.com and some of the other
newsgroup providers that will help the RIAA. Usenet.com boasts that signing
up for an account "gives you access to millions of MP3 files and also
enables you to post your own files the same way and share them with the
whole world."
Clearly they didn''t run that language by their lawyers first.
So will the RIAA win? Thanks to improvident boasts like that, they stand a
good chance. One reason the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against Grokster is
that the justices believed that StreamCast''s executives had tried to lure
pirates into using the Morpheus application. The justices also said that
neither company filtered copyrighted material and "the business models
employed by Grokster and StreamCast confirm that their principal object was
use of their software to download copyrighted works."
What the RIAA''s doing here is a classic litigation strategy: sue someone who
a judge is likely to say is a clear offender, and then invoke that decision
when targeting someone who''s a more marginal case. Usenet.com may be first,
in other words, but newsgroup providers like AT&T, Verizon, and Stanford may
well be next.
打哈欠!!!!
谁在乎!!!!
Yawn!!!!
Who cares!!!!
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2007年10月16日下午5:56 PDT
RIAA试图在Usenet上拔插头。严肃地说。
发布者Declan McCullagh
美国唱片业协会为版权诉讼找到了一个新的法律目标：Usenet。
在提起的诉讼中10月12日，RIAA称Usenet新闻组包含数百万受版权保护的录音。违反联邦法律。
目前只有Usenet.com被指定为被告，但同样的逻辑将让RIAA起诉数百所大学，互联网服务提供商，以及
其他新闻组档案。 AT& T提供Usenet，Verizon，斯坦福大学和其他公司（包括Giganews）也提供Usenet。
这就是使这一诉讼变得重要的原因。如果RIAA能够赢得Usenet.com，其他Usenet提供商也面临法律风险。
对于那些相对较新的互联网用户，Usenet是一个在Web或点对点网络存在之前很久就分发对话和二进制文件的流行方式。它被划分为数十个数以千计的新闻组 - 分层排列的讨论区域和运动名称，如sci.med.aids，rec.motorcycles和comp.os.linux。管理员。
少数人会受到审核;大多数不是。为了提高效率，最近新闻组的帖子存储在Usenet提供商的服务器上（而不是像邮件列表那样保存在用户的计算机上）。
>(from http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9798715-38.html )
October 16, 2007 5:56 PM PDT
RIAA tries to pull plug on Usenet. Seriously.
Posted by Declan McCullagh
The Recording Industry Association of America has found a new legal target
for a copyright lawsuit: Usenet.
In a lawsuit filed on October 12, the RIAA says that Usenet newsgroups
contain "millions of copyrighted sound recordings" in violation of federal
law.
Only Usenet.com is named as a defendant for now, but the same logic would
let the RIAA sue hundreds of universities, Internet service providers, and
other newsgroup archives. AT&T offers Usenet, as does Verizon, Stanford
University and other companies including Giganews.
That''s what makes this lawsuit important. If the RIAA can win against
Usenet.com, other Usenet providers are at legal risk, too.
For those of you who are relative newcomers to the Internet, Usenet was a
wildly popular way to distribute conversations and binary files long before
the Web or peer-to-peer networks existed. It''s divided up into tens of
thousands of "newsgroups"--discussion areas arranged hierarchically and
sporting names like sci.med.aids, rec.motorcycles, and comp.os.linux.admin.
A handful are moderated; most are not. For efficiency''s sake, recent posts
to newsgroups are stored on the Usenet provider''s server (as opposed to
saved on a subscriber''s computer as mailing lists are).
我认为这将是一个伟大的日子，就像Usenet的早期，当他们
停止允许mime编码的附件到消息。如果usenet回到
到非二进制文件，它将再次成为一个好地方，并且ISP不会将他们的服务外包给专门从事的大型公司
Usenet服务。
I think it will be a great day, like the early days of Usenet, when they
stop allowing mime encoded attachments to messages. If usenet went back
to non-binaries it would be a great place again, and ISP''s would not
have to outsource their service to larger companies that specialize in
Usenet service.
我同意这一点，不应该在新闻
组中传递二进制文件。有一次，如果新闻组需要额外的内容，你只需要为b
运行一个网站来获取额外的部分。
论坛和其他私人团体可能很多为此。在我使用的
论坛中，我们传递脚本和源代码，它有一个大小限制
大约2M但很少接近，因为它的大部分是样本
单个函数/类。有时一个jokey视频已经通过，但是现在这个东西往往嵌入了一个链接到源。
我喜欢有在论坛中有一些标记语言，对于hilights和
这样，我不认为纯粹的文本新闻组需要像曾经有过的那样。问题在于，如果你允许一点标记，人们总是会要求更多，直到你接近一个完整的HTML。
odf may更好，因为读者可以简单地过滤掉那些用户选择退出的那些位，或者会错过任何它不理解的部分。所以
它应该满足那些想要使用简单的阅读器/编辑器的人以及那些想要它漂亮的人，而不会丢失文本。
I agree with that, there shouldn''t be a need to pass binaries in news
groups. At one time if the news group needed extra content you would just
run a web site for the extra parts.
Forums and other private groups are probably much beeter for that. In the
forums I use we do pass script and source code around, it has a size limit
of about 2M but rarely comes close to that as much of it is samples of
single functions/classes. Sometimes a jokey video has been passed, but now
this sort of thing tends to be embedded with a link to the source.
I do like to have some markup language in the forums, for hilights and
such, I don''t think there is as much need for pure text news groups as
there once was. The problem there is if you allow a bit of markup, people
will always ask for more, until you get close to a full html.
odf may be better, because readers can simply filter out those bits the
user opts out of, or will miss out any section it doesn''t understand. So
it should satisfy those that want to use a simple reader/editor as well as
those who want it pretty, without the loss of text.
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