IDE问题 [英] IDE Question
问题描述
大家好，
我只是想知道什么是最受欢迎的IDE。我要问的原因是我现在正在和IDE谈论自己的战争。它好像每一个我找到并尝试的每个人都有其中的东西
其他人不会和反之亦然。经过几个月的搜索，我正在寻找完美的IDE和
，我总是回到IDLE来做我需要做的事情。我想要使用Komodo很糟糕，但我有一个问题
有时是自动完成的，有时候也不是。
即使我是碳复制脚本。
提前致谢，
Steve P
Hi All,
I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason
I ask is I am currently at war with myself when it comes to IDE''s. It
seems like every one I find and try out has something in it that
others don''t and viceversa. I am in search for the perfect IDE and
after many months of searching, I always come back to IDLE to do what
I need to do. I want to use Komodo badly but the one issue I have with
that is sometimes the auto-complete works and other times it doesn''t.
Even if I carbon copy a script.
Thanks in advance,
Steve P
推荐答案
10月15日，1：19 * pm，Steve Phillips < steve ... @ gmail.comwrote：
On Oct 15, 1:19*pm, "Steve Phillips" <steve...@gmail.comwrote:
大家好，
我只是想知道什么是最受欢迎的IDE 。我要问的原因是我现在正在和IDE谈论自己的战争。它好像每一个我找到并尝试的每个人都有其中的东西
其他人不会和反之亦然。经过几个月的搜索，我正在寻找完美的IDE和
，我总是回到IDLE来做我需要做的事情。我想要使用Komodo很糟糕，但我有一个问题
有时是自动完成的，有时候也不是。
即使我是碳复制一个剧本。
提前致谢，
Steve P
Hi All,
I am just wondering what seems to be the most popular IDE. The reason
I ask is I am currently at war with myself when it comes to IDE''s. It
seems like every one I find and try out has something in it that
others don''t and viceversa. I am in search for the perfect IDE and
after many months of searching, I always come back to IDLE to do what
I need to do. I want to use Komodo badly but the one issue I have with
that is sometimes the auto-complete works and other times it doesn''t.
Even if I carbon copy a script.
Thanks in advance,
Steve P
我个人会推荐你花时间学习你的方式
围绕一个强大的文本编辑器，如emacs或vim（我自己使用emacs，
），但这可能不适合你的个人编辑
品味，学习曲线有点陡峭。编辑品味
问题可以解决，一旦你学习了一个强大的文本
编辑器（例如，emacs实际上是无限可定制的），
和你使用它们的力量是惊人的。
如果你开始使用IDE，其他人的python wiki链接
已经链接到了很好的选项概述。
I would personally recommend that you take the time to learn your way
around a powerful text editor such as emacs or vim (I use emacs,
myself), however that may not fit well with your personal editing
tastes, and the learning curve is a bit steep. The editing tastes
problem can be solved once you learn your way around a powerful text
editor (emacs, for instance, is practically infinitely customizable),
and the power you get from using them is amazing.
If you''re set on using an IDE, the python wiki link that other people
have linked to has a decent overview of good options.
我个人建议你花时间学习你的方式
I would personally recommend that you take the time to learn your way
围绕强大的文本编辑器，如emacs或vim（我自己使用emacs，
），但这可能不适合你的个人编辑
品味，学习曲线有点陡峭。编辑品味
问题可以解决，一旦你学习了一个强大的文本
编辑器（例如，emacs实际上是无限可定制的），
和你使用它们的力量是惊人的。
around a powerful text editor such as emacs or vim (I use emacs,
myself), however that may not fit well with your personal editing
tastes, and the learning curve is a bit steep. The editing tastes
problem can be solved once you learn your way around a powerful text
editor (emacs, for instance, is practically infinitely customizable),
and the power you get from using them is amazing.
现在，按照那条路线，许多人称Eclipse为21世纪Emacs ...... ;-)
与此相关的有趣链接：
http://blogs.nuxeo.com/sections/blog...emacs-to-pydev
干杯，
Fabio
Now, following that route, many people call Eclipse is the 21st
century Emacs... ;-)
Interesting link related to that:
http://blogs.nuxeo.com/sections/blog...emacs-to-pydev
Cheers,
Fabio
10月15日，2：13 * pm，Fabio Zadrozny < fabi ... @ gmail.comwrote：
On Oct 15, 2:13*pm, "Fabio Zadrozny" <fabi...@gmail.comwrote:
现在，按照那条路线，许多人称Eclipse为21世纪E
世纪Emacs ... ;-)
Now, following that route, many people call Eclipse is the 21st
century Emacs... ;-)
我不想开始编辑战或任何事情，但我不认为
，Eclipse已接近21世纪的emacs，除非
，自从我上次使用
以来，它已经取得了很大的进步。使用emacs，我可以在一个窗口中打开多个文件，
，窗口分割（我不记得eclipse能够做到这一点，
虽然它允许多个文件在他们自己的标签中），我可以
动态定制编辑器的动作，而无需重新启动它，
在LISP的变种中。这在Eclipse中可能是可能的，我不是真的知道。
我曾经使用Eclipse和pydev，但是一旦我学会了解决方法
emacs，我没有回去做任何事情。如果我用
做任何Java编码，我可能会这么做 - 但我不是。使用emacs编写python代码时，我的生产成倍增长，而不是以前使用
Eclipse。
添加到emacs可以自定义的程度（只需要大约
编辑器所做的一切都可以自定义，你可以快速跳到
到你的函数来源在编辑时运行，
你可以在特定功能之前或之后轻松修补行为
通话，你可以轻松定义键盘宏并将它们绑定到
键击，和/或保存它们以备将来使用，你可以轻松创建
键盘，对应于交互式填写模板 -
" skeletons"等），而且我真的没有看到有人会怎么想？
Eclipse几乎可以替代emacs。
更不用说我不喜欢我需要安装X才能运行emacs如果我不需要它。
我可能是w关于Eclipse的功能，因为我在大约一年内没有使用过它，而且emacs肯定有它自己的一套怪癖和
烦恼 - 其中一个是非常陡峭的学习曲线。
观看您链接到的博客文章中链接的截屏视频，我/ b $ b可能更喜欢Eclipse和emacs我不习惯永远不会触摸
a鼠标，或者如果我是在windows下开发的话。凭借我的编辑心态
就像现在的样子，当我看到它的时候，我只看到了很多浪费了b / b
的屏幕空间，还有很多浪费时间做事就像intellisense一样。
此外，博客文章并没有真正给出_Why_
人转换的任何理由，除了他们对
Eclipse。
Meh，我不是在谈论Eclipse上的垃圾 - 它是一个很好的工具，如果它适合
你如何使用文本/代码。它只是不适合我，如果我切换回它，我会觉得使用它时会损失b
。几年来我使用像
这样的IDE，但是在使用
emacs大约一个半月之后，我没有回头看。我甚至将它用作我的IRC客户端，当我在IRC上跳过
时。
我认为人们应该尝试各种风格的编辑器来/>
找到对他们最有效的方法 - 虽然确实需要花费很多时间来学习3到4个不同的编辑器，一旦找到
什么适合你，你可能会大大提高生产力。
I don''t want to kick off an editor war or anything, but I don''t think
that Eclipse is anywhere near being a 21st century emacs, unless
there''s been a whole lot of progress with it since the last time I
used it. With emacs, I can have multiple files open in one window,
with the window split (I don''t remember eclipse being able to do this,
although it allowed multiple files in their own tabs), and I can
customize the actions of the editor on the fly, without restarting it,
in a variant of LISP. That may be possible in Eclipse, I don''t really
know.
I used to use Eclipse and pydev, but once I learned my way around
emacs, I haven''t gone back to it for anything. I probably would if I
did any coding in Java - but I don''t. I''m exponentially more
productive with emacs while writing python code than I ever was with
Eclipse.
Add to that the degree to which emacs is customizable (just about
everything that the editor does can be customized, you can jump
quickly to the source of the functions you''re running while editing,
you can easily patch behavior in before or after specific function
calls, you can easily define keyboard macros and bind them to
keystrokes, and / or save them for future use, you can easily create
keystrokes that correspond to interactive filling out of templates -
"skeletons", etc), and I really don''t see how someone could think that
Eclipse is anywhere near being a replacement for emacs.
Not to mention that I don''t need to have X installed to run emacs if I
don''t need it.
I may be wrong about the capabilities of Eclipse, as I haven''t used it
in about a year, and emacs certainly has it''s own set of quirks and
annoyances - one of which being the very steep learning curve.
Watching the screencasts linked in the blog post you linked to, I
might prefer Eclipse to emacs if I wasn''t very used to never touching
a mouse, or if I was developing under windows. With my editing mindset
the way it is right now, when I see that, I just see a lot of wasted
screen space, and a lot of wasted time doing things like intellisense.
Also, the blog post didn''t really give any reasons as to _why_ the
person switched over, other than that they were impressed with
Eclipse.
Meh, I''m not talking trash on Eclipse - it''s a fine tool if it fits
how you work with text / code. It''s just not for me, and I would feel
crippled while using it if I switched back to it. I used IDEs like
that for a few years, but after about a month and a half of using
emacs, I haven''t looked back. I even use it as my IRC client when I
jump on IRC.
I do think that people should try a variety of styles of editors to
find what works best for them though - although it does take a lot of
time to learn your way around 3 or 4 different editors, once you find
what fits with you, you will probably get a huge boost in productivity.
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