CENSORSHIP - Django项目（架构演进支持） [英] CENSORSHIP - Django Project (Schema Evolution Support)
问题描述
[公开发布到comp.lang.python，通过电子邮件通知6
与该主题相关的收件人]
我实现了一个简单的架构django的进化支持，因为个人项目需要
a。此外，我已经提供了审核：
http： //case.lazaridis.com/wiki/DjangoAudit
结果，我受到了审查（禁止从开发名单中删除）
我最初的非公开投诉[1]关于django devel的审查，
发送给六个相关的项目接收者[2]仍未得到答复。
我得到的唯一答案是_user_列表上的额外审查，
这是_completely_ unjustified，因为我刚刚要求对我的评论
代码级工作结果：
http://groups.google.com/group/djang...dcc4946c3bd7b2
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我明白社区可能因为我过去的b $ b b评估而感到困惑。但是这给了_no_方式有权攻击我
亲自和申请审查。
Django最初创建于2003年底的World Online，在劳伦斯，堪萨斯州的劳伦斯日报 - 世界报纸上的网页
division2
http://code.djangoproject.com/browse...k/AUTHORS#L128
Django项目应该在将来真正避免这种非自由行为。
请允许我访问用户列表，这样我就可以完成我的工作了。
谢谢。
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PS：
如果有人有兴趣验证结果，为了稳定django的简单架构演变支持，请查看结果
这里：
ht tp：//case.lazaridis.com/wiki/DjangoProductEvaluation
http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/DjangoSchemaEvolution
http://case.lazaridis.com/browser/dj...work/evolve.py
http://case.lazaridis.com/browser/dj...b_command.diff
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旁注：
我已经实现了以上作为django项目的建议
（手动创建执行ALTER TABLE语句）会阻碍我
逐步开发我的应用程序：
如果你这样做关心删除数据，你必须在数据库中手动执行ALTER
TABLE语句。这就是我们总是这样做的方式，因为处理数据是一项非常敏感的操作，我们希望避免自动化。也就是说，为了添加部分自动化的数据库升级功能，已经完成了一些工作。
http://www.djangoproject.com /documen...e-the-database
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[1]
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日期： 2006-06-03 08:32
主题：pj.audit.django.censorship / offer。
*摘要*
*对django-developer的审查
*个人项目
[...] - （非公开商业部分省略）
* CENSORSHIP *
我想知道我被禁止的原因是什么？来自开发商
列表。
Django来自报纸环境，我认为你应该
真正评估你的信息两次在您*审查*某人之前
列表中，仅发布了与django开发相关的主题，并且为了完成审计的几项任务，
br /> http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/DjangoAudit
这真的足以证明审查的合理性吗？：
http://groups.google.com/group/djang...b5a3aafe39d239
请Holovaty先生再次访问开发列表
因此我可以完成我的工作。
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* PERSONAL_PROJECTS *
而不是没有任何理由阻止我从
开发列表中，为什么不在我的网站上查看，我在哪里列出
一些链接（包括那个找到的'并解释项目：
http://lazaridis.com/core /eval/index.html
我已经在这个核心项目上工作了几年，最终定稿，
和在2006年，我开始定义最终的服务：
http://lazaridis.com/pj/index.html
如上所述，我使用django作为个人项目（我希望能保证这一点）
我有些事情）。为了从我的项目开发开始，我们需要进化功能。同时我公开审核了
，因此其他人可以从我的经历中受益。
此外，我寻找一位参考客户。虽然我已经计划首先完成审核，然后再与你联系，但缺少访问开发人员名单的时间会让我改变我的日程安排。
[...] - （非公开商业部分省略）
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[2]
收件人需要以下文件：
< a rel =nofollowhref =http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/faq/#who-s-behind-thistarget =_ blank> http://www.djangoproject.com/documen。 ..- s-behind-this
来自这个档案：
http://code.djangoproject.com/browse.../trunk/AUTHORS
..
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http ：//lazaridis.com
[posted publicly to comp.lang.python, with email notification to 6
recipients relevant to the topic]
I have implemented a simple schema evolution support for django, due to
a need for a personal project. Additionally, I''ve provided an Audit:
http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/DjangoAudit
As a result, I was censored (''banned'' from the development list)
My initial non-public complain [1] about censorship on django devel,
sent to six relevant project recipients [2] remained unanswered.
The only ''answer'' I got was an additional censorship on the _user_ list,
which is _completely_ unjustified, as I''ve just requested comments to my
code-level working results:
http://groups.google.com/group/djang...dcc4946c3bd7b2
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I understand that the community was possibly confused due to my past
evaluations. But this gives in _no_ way the right to attack me
personally and to apply censorship.
"Django was originally created in late 2003 at World Online, the Web
division2 of the Lawrence Journal-World newspaper in Lawrence, Kansas"
http://code.djangoproject.com/browse...k/AUTHORS#L128
The Django Project should really avoid such non-liberal actions in future.
Please enable my access to the user list, thus I can complete my work.
Thank you.
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P.S.:
If anyone is interested to verify the results, in order to stabelize the
simple schema evolution support for django, please review the results
here:
http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/DjangoProductEvaluation
http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/DjangoSchemaEvolution
http://case.lazaridis.com/browser/dj...work/evolve.py
http://case.lazaridis.com/browser/dj...b_command.diff
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Sidenote:
I''ve implemented the above as the suggestions from the django project
(manually create an execute ALTER TABLE statements) would hinder me to
develop my application incrementally:
"If you do care about deleting data, you''ll have to execute the ALTER
TABLE statements manually in your database. That''s the way we''ve always
done it, because dealing with data is a very sensitive operation that
we''ve wanted to avoid automating. That said, there''s some work being
done to add partially automated database-upgrade functionality."
http://www.djangoproject.com/documen...e-the-database
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Date : 2006-06-03 08:32
Subject: pj.audit.django.censorship/offer.
*SUMMARY*
* Censorship on django-developer
* Personal Projects
[...] - (non-public commercial part omitted)
*CENSORSHIP*
I would like to know for which reason I was "banned" from the developers
list.
Django comes from an newspaper environment, and I think you should
really evaluate your information twice before you *censor* someone on
the list, who has posted only topics relevant to django development in
order to fulfill several tasks for an Audit:
http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/DjangoAudit
Is this here really enough to justify censorship?:
http://groups.google.com/group/djang...b5a3aafe39d239
Please, Mr. Holovaty, enable my access to the development-list again
thus I can finalize my work.
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*PERSONAL_PROJECTS*
Instead of blocking me without any justification from the
development-list, why don''t you just look on my website, where I list
some links (including that one found'' and explain the project:
http://lazaridis.com/core/eval/index.html
I''ve worked several years on this "Core Project", which is finalized,
and in 2006 I''ve started to define the resulting services:
http://lazaridis.com/pj/index.html
As stated, I use django for a personal project (which I hope will secure
me some incomings). The evolve functionality was necessary in order to
start with development of my project. At the same time I made the audit
publicly, thus other people can benefit from my experiences.
Additionally, I look for a reference customer. Although I had planned to
finalize the Audit first and then to contact you, the missing access to
the developer list forces me to change my schedule.
[...] - (non-public commercial part omitted)
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[2]
The recipients were take for the following file:
http://www.djangoproject.com/documen...-s-behind-this
and from this file:
http://code.djangoproject.com/browse.../trunk/AUTHORS
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http://lazaridis.com
推荐答案
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilias_Lazaridis
[公开发布到comp.lang.python，没有电子邮件通知
收件人当然不认为这是一个相关主题和所有
那些不知道Illias的人]
Diez
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilias_Lazaridis
[posted publicly to comp.lang.python, with no email notification to
recipients that certainly don''t consider this a relevant topic and for all
those who don''t know Illias]
Diez
Ilias Lazaridis写道：
Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
[公开发布到comp.lang.python，通过电子邮件通知6个与主题相关的收件人]
我已经为django实现了一个简单的架构演变支持，因为
需要个人项目。此外，我已经提供了审核：
http： //case.lazaridis.com/wiki/DjangoAudit
结果，我受到审查（禁止从开发清单中删除）
[posted publicly to comp.lang.python, with email notification to 6
recipients relevant to the topic]
I have implemented a simple schema evolution support for django, due to
a need for a personal project. Additionally, I''ve provided an Audit:
http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/DjangoAudit
As a result, I was censored (''banned'' from the development list)
请参阅此消息了解背景信息：
http://groups.google.com/group/djang...96eabf75f2b9c7
总结一下，有人觉得伊利亚斯是故意拖着
邮件列表。似乎没有必要进一步解释。
Please see this message for background:
http://groups.google.com/group/djang...96eabf75f2b9c7
To summarise, it was felt that Ilias was deliberately trolling the
mailing list. No further explanation seems necessary.
Diez B. Roggisch写道：
Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilias_Lazaridis
这是什么维基百科这里有关于这个主题的条目吗？
所提供的维基百科的可信度和价值是多少？进入？
让我们回顾编辑的清单：
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...action=history
Ubernostrum
"你好。我是詹姆斯贝内特，一个网络开发人员，然后转到了
劳伦斯，堪萨斯州，我现在在世界在线工作，在线部门
of劳伦斯杂志 - 世界和Django网络框架的主页。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ubernostrum
" Gldnspud"
- 否个人资料 -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /用户：Gldnspud
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读者注意：
进一步关于我过去的评估工作的链接和解释是在我的网站上公布的：
http://lazaridis.com/core/eval/index.html
http：// lazaridis.com/core/index.html
这些评估现已结束，我尝试专注于个人
项目，同时贡献结果以开放的
源方式返回给其他用户。
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我现在尝试应用这样的要求合规性审计以更优惠的价格：
http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki
出于某种原因，Django项目社区和领导层已经对我的反应极为反对
调查结果，着作甚至是代码级别的贡献。
此时我不知道为什么。
但我可能会做很快。
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http://lazaridis.com
What has this "wikipedia" entry to do with the topic here?
What is the credibility and value of the provided "wikipedia" entry?
Let''s review the editor''s list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...action=history
"Ubernostrum"
"Howdy. I''m James Bennett, a web developer[...]and then moved to
Lawrence, Kansas where I now work for World Online, the online division
of the Lawrence Journal-World and home of the Django web framework."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ubernostrum
"Gldnspud"
- no profile available -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gldnspud
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Note to readers:
Further links and explanations about my past evaluation work are
publicized on my website:
http://lazaridis.com/core/eval/index.html
http://lazaridis.com/core/index.html
Those evaluations are now closed, and I try to focus on personal
projects, whilst contribution results back to other users in the open
source way.
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I try now to apply such "Requirements Compliancy Audits" in a more
decent way:
http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki
For some reason, the Django Project Community and leadership has reacted
extremely against my findings, writings and even code-level contributions.
At this point I don''t know why.
But possibly I will do so shortly.
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http://lazaridis.com
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