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MVP'呃。嗯,我认为有些人肯定不配得上他们因为他们的关系而得到他们。我刚刚看了

MV的MVP列表,我可以看到至少一个我认识的人(没有人在这里我可以添加
)从来没有帮助NG',但是作为一个MVP又一年又一年地获得了b $ b。


在这个世界上没有正义,显然是你认识的人,不是你所知道的或

呢!当人们意识到他们以非平等的方式对待他们时,MVP迟早会失去吸引力。我知道这里的人在我的

意见中,非常应该得到这个头衔,并且在24 * 7的

新闻组中工作,而且从来没有成功。


微软,我喜欢你的软件,但我不喜欢这个男孩俱乐部!


-

Terry Burns
http://TrainingOn.net

MVP''s eh. Well, I think there are some people who definately dont deserve
them but get them because of their connections. I''ve just been looking at
the MVP list for VB and I can see at least one person who I know ( No one
here I might add) who NEVER helps on the NG''s but is there as an MVP again
year after year.

No justice in this world, apparently its who you know, not what you know or
do! Sooner or later, MVP will lose its appeal when people realise they are
being treated in a non egalitarian fashion. I know people here who in my
opinion, are very deserved of this title, and work tirelessley on the
newsgroups 24*7 and yet never make it.

Microsoft, I like your software, but I dont like this club for the boys!

--
Terry Burns
http://TrainingOn.net

推荐答案

特里 - 我最近听到了很多这种情绪。 HOwever NG

参与并不是奖项的唯一因素。我知道有些人喜欢

杰弗里·里希特,可能是因为有人可以获得这个奖项,但是他们不会在新闻组中发布任何东西,但是谁是.NET社区中最重要的人之一(即使你不同意我的意见)/ b $ b $ Jeffrey或新闻组你肯定能看出我的观点。


这里没有公布的MVP评分表,所以你真的不知道所有这些

会决定如何奖励或重新授予它们。我不知道你说话的人是谁b $ b,但恕我直言,我在节目中认识的大多数人都非常值得。现在,是否有其他同样有价值的非mvps。当然,

但这就是提名持续进行的原因。如果不是所有的VB

mvps,那么只有一个''不合格'',你必须承认's $

非常优秀系统MS已经获得奖励......我当然知道

超过1开发人员不值得废话,而且在大多数领域你通常都会找到
找到很多人都没有资格。如果MVP中只有一个VB $ VB $ VB计划没有资格,这个数字相当不错 - 你不同意吗?


; - )


-

WG Ryan MVP Windows - 嵌入式

www.knowdotnet.com | www.tibasolutions.com | www.devbuzz.com

" Terry Burns" <他** @ now.com>在消息中写道

新闻:OU **************** @ TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl ...
Terry - I''ve been hearing a lot of that sentiment lately. HOwever NG
participation isn''t the only factor in the award. I konw some people like
Jeffrey Richter, probably as deserving of the award as someone can be, who
doesn''t post much of anything in the newsgroups but who is one of the most
important people in the .NET community (even if you disagree with me about
Jeffrey or Newsgroups you can certainly see my point).

THere''s no published score sheet for MVPs so you can''t really know all that
goes into the decision on how they are awarded or reawarded. I don''t know
of whom you speak, but IMHO, most of the people i know in the program are
very worthy. Now, are there other non mvps that are equally worthy. Sure,
but that''s why nominations are on an ongoing basis. If out of all the VB
mvps there''s only one that ''isn''t qualified'', you have to admit that''s a
pretty excellent system MS has in place for the award.... I certainly know
more than 1 Developer who isn''t worth a crap and in most fields you usually
find a good portion of people that aren''t qualified. If only one in the MVP
VB Program isn''t qualified, that''s pretty good numbers - wouldn''t you agree?

;-)

--
W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded

www.knowdotnet.com | www.tibasolutions.com | www.devbuzz.com
"Terry Burns" <he**@now.com> wrote in message
news:OU****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
MVP''呃嗯,我认为有些人肯定不配得上他们,但因为他们的联系而得到他们。我刚刚看到了VB的MVP列表,我可以看到至少一个我认识的人(没有人在这里,我可能会补充),他们从不帮助NG'但是年复一年再次成为MVP。

在这个世界上没有正义,显然是你知道的,不是你所知道的,或者做的!当人们意识到他们正在以非平等的方式对待时,MVP迟早会失去吸引力。我认识这里的人,我认为,这个头衔是非常值得的,并且在24 * 7的新闻组中不知疲倦地工作但却永远不会成功。

微软,我喜欢你的软件,但我不喜欢这个男孩俱乐部!

- Terry Burns
http://TrainingOn.net
MVP''s eh. Well, I think there are some people who definately dont deserve
them but get them because of their connections. I''ve just been looking at
the MVP list for VB and I can see at least one person who I know ( No one
here I might add) who NEVER helps on the NG''s but is there as an MVP again
year after year.

No justice in this world, apparently its who you know, not what you know
or do! Sooner or later, MVP will lose its appeal when people realise they
are being treated in a non egalitarian fashion. I know people here who in
my opinion, are very deserved of this title, and work tirelessley on the
newsgroups 24*7 and yet never make it.

Microsoft, I like your software, but I dont like this club for the boys!

--
Terry Burns
http://TrainingOn.net



嗨特里!


Terry Burns schrieb
Hi Terry!

"Terry Burns" schrieb
MVP'呃。嗯,我认为有些人肯定不配得上他们,但因为他们的联系而得到他们。我刚刚看到了VB的MVP列表,我可以看到至少一个我认识的人(没有人在这里,我可能会补充),他们从不帮助NG'但是年复一年再次成为MVP。

在这个世界上没有正义,显然是你知道的,不是你所知道的,或者做的!当人们意识到他们正在以非平等的方式对待时,MVP迟早会失去吸引力。我认识这里的人,我认为,这个头衔是非常值得的,并且在24 * 7的新闻组中不知疲倦地工作但却永远不会成功。

微软,我喜欢你的软件,但是我不喜欢这个男孩们的俱乐部!
MVP''s eh. Well, I think there are some people who definately dont deserve
them but get them because of their connections. I''ve just been looking at
the MVP list for VB and I can see at least one person who I know ( No one
here I might add) who NEVER helps on the NG''s but is there as an MVP again
year after year.

No justice in this world, apparently its who you know, not what you know
or do! Sooner or later, MVP will lose its appeal when people realise they
are being treated in a non egalitarian fashion. I know people here who in
my opinion, are very deserved of this title, and work tirelessley on the
newsgroups 24*7 and yet never make it.

Microsoft, I like your software, but I dont like this club for the boys!




只是想知道看起来很时髦的MVP抨击这些

天。


几天前我们已经有了这个:
http://groups.google.to/groups?threa...TNGP09.phx.gbl


我不知道为什么MVP经常被冒犯。他们只是在闲暇时间分享他们的b
知识而不付钱。


就个人而言,我可以说我已经成为一个更好的.NET程序员,只是

,因为我跟踪了像Herfried K.Wagner或Thomas

Scheidegger这样的MVP帖子。可以从这些MVP中学到很多东西。


特别感谢Herfried K. Wagner。每当我遇到问题时,我都会快速进行谷歌搜索,大部分时间我都会找到提供

解决方案的Herfried。


当然有一些MVP在新闻组中从不提供帮助。这些是MVP

写书,文章等。


我无法理解你的MVP问题。


干杯


Arne Janning



Just wondering about the MVP-bashing that seems to be fashionable these
days.

We have had this just a few days ago:
http://groups.google.to/groups?threa...TNGP09.phx.gbl

I don''t know why the MVPs are offended so often. They only share their
knowledge in their spare time, without being paid.

Personally, I can say that I have become a much better .NET-Programmer, just
because I tracked the postings of MVPs like Herfried K.Wagner or Thomas
Scheidegger. There is so much one can learn from these MVPs.

Especially I want to thank Herfried K. Wagner. Whenever I have a problem I
do a quick Google-Search and most of the time I find Herfried who offers a
solution.

Of course there are some MVPs that never help in newsgroups. These are MVPs
that write books, articles, etc.

I cannot understand your problem with MVPs.

Cheers

Arne Janning


MVP的绝大多数都是非常酷,非常有才华的人, />
我同意。至少在这个NG中,所有MVP'我和

一起工作,或者是非常有才华的勤奋个人。当我看到这个清单并且应该等待前一天

张贴时,也许我只是心情不好。


我已经说了我想说的话,而且我不打算延长这个帖子的时间。

更长。

-

Terry Burns
http://TrainingOn.net

William Ryan eMVP <无线********* @ gmail.com>在消息中写道

新闻:ef ************** @ TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl ...
The vast vajority of MVP''s are very cool, very talented individuals, with
this I agree. And at least in this NG, all the MVP''s I have worked alongside
or with are exceptionally talented hard working individuals. Perhaps I was
just in a bad mood when I saw the list and should have waited one day before
posting.

I''ve said what I wanted to say, and I''m not going to prolong this thread any
longer.
--
Terry Burns
http://TrainingOn.net
"William Ryan eMVP" <Wi*********@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ef**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
特里 - 我'我最近听到了很多这种情绪。 HOwever NG
参与并不是奖项的唯一因素。我知道有些像杰弗里·里希特这样的人,可能是因为有人可以获得这个奖项,谁不会在新闻组中发布任何东西但是谁是最好的之一
.NET社区中的重要人物(即使你不同意我关于杰弗里或新闻组你肯定能看到我的观点)。

这些MVP没有公布的评分表所以你我们真的不知道决定如何奖励或重新报名的所有内容。我不知道你说的是谁,但恕我直言,我在节目中认识的大多数人都非常有价值。现在,是否有其他同样有价值的非mvps。
当然,但这就是提名持续进行的原因。如果不是所有的VB mvps中只有一个''不合格'',你必须承认这是一个非常优秀的系统,MS已经获得奖励....我当然知道不止一个开发人员不值得废话,在大多数领域,你通常会找到很多不合格的人。
如果MVP VB程序中只有一个没有资格,那就是相当不错的数字 - 你不同意吗?

;-)

-
WG Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded


















knowdotnet.com | www.tibasolutions.com | www.devbuzz.com
Terry Burns <他** @ now.com>在消息中写道
新闻:OU **************** @ TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl ...
Terry - I''ve been hearing a lot of that sentiment lately. HOwever NG
participation isn''t the only factor in the award. I konw some people like
Jeffrey Richter, probably as deserving of the award as someone can be, who
doesn''t post much of anything in the newsgroups but who is one of the most
important people in the .NET community (even if you disagree with me about
Jeffrey or Newsgroups you can certainly see my point).

THere''s no published score sheet for MVPs so you can''t really know all
that goes into the decision on how they are awarded or reawarded. I don''t
know of whom you speak, but IMHO, most of the people i know in the program
are very worthy. Now, are there other non mvps that are equally worthy.
Sure, but that''s why nominations are on an ongoing basis. If out of all
the VB mvps there''s only one that ''isn''t qualified'', you have to admit
that''s a pretty excellent system MS has in place for the award.... I
certainly know more than 1 Developer who isn''t worth a crap and in most
fields you usually find a good portion of people that aren''t qualified.
If only one in the MVP VB Program isn''t qualified, that''s pretty good
numbers - wouldn''t you agree?

;-)

--
W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded

www.knowdotnet.com | www.tibasolutions.com | www.devbuzz.com
"Terry Burns" <he**@now.com> wrote in message
news:OU****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
MVP'呃。嗯,我认为有些人肯定不配得上他们,但因为他们的联系而得到他们。我刚刚看到了VB的MVP列表,我可以看到至少一个我认识的人(没有人在这里,我可能会补充),他们从不帮助NG'但是年复一年再次成为MVP。

在这个世界上没有正义,显然是你知道的,不是你所知道的,或者做的!当人们意识到他们正在以非平等的方式对待时,MVP迟早会失去吸引力。我认识这里的人,我认为,这个头衔是非常值得的,并且在24 * 7的新闻组中不知疲倦地工作但却永远不会成功。

微软,我喜欢你的软件,但我不喜欢这个男孩俱乐部!

- Terry Burns
http://TrainingOn.net
MVP''s eh. Well, I think there are some people who definately dont deserve
them but get them because of their connections. I''ve just been looking at
the MVP list for VB and I can see at least one person who I know ( No one
here I might add) who NEVER helps on the NG''s but is there as an MVP
again year after year.

No justice in this world, apparently its who you know, not what you know
or do! Sooner or later, MVP will lose its appeal when people realise they
are being treated in a non egalitarian fashion. I know people here who in
my opinion, are very deserved of this title, and work tirelessley on the
newsgroups 24*7 and yet never make it.

Microsoft, I like your software, but I dont like this club for the boys!

--
Terry Burns
http://TrainingOn.net




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