VS2005尚未准备好迎接黄金时段 [英] VS2005 Not ready for prime time

问题描述

我对VS2005非常失望。 小事它的错误只是

令人难以置信。男孩，如果我不得不等待一年的.1

版本来修复这个明显的测试版产品中的所有错误，我会非常生气。

这个（今天收到）只是为什么ASP.NET 2.0

完全没有准备好黄金时间的众多例子之一。
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_911717.aspx 解决方法他们引用了

并不是一个解决方法。他们实际上在说......不要用它。这是

处理CSS类很糟糕（任何地方都没有样式类的下拉菜单......

一切都必须从内存中手动输入）......它''处理

全球化通过资源糟透了（Global_Resource并没有出现在任何

下降中，而且它的密钥也没有出现）。


这是小事。那件事。不是大锤子和框架

（就像ASP.NET 2.0中的所有代码隐藏和项目模型改进）。

这是小事情那会让你挠头并让你浪费

小时的时间试图弄清楚你做错了什么......当它只是

时你正在使用的工具需要一个IMMEDIATE补丁周期。

I am so disappointed in VS2005. The "little things" wrong with it are just
mind-boggling. Boy, I''ll be so mad if I have to wait a year for the ".1"
release that fixes all the bugs in this obvious beta product.

This (received today) is just one of the many examples of why ASP.NET 2.0
was totally not ready for prime time.
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_911717.aspx The "workaround" they cite
isn''t a workaround AT ALL. They''re actually saying... "don''t use it." It''s
handling of CSS classes sucks (no dropdown for style classes anywhere...
everything has to be inputted manually from memory)... it''s handling of
globalization via resources sucks (Global_Resource doesn''t appear in any
drop downs and neither does its keys).

It''s the "little things" that matter. Not the big hammers and frameworks
(like all the code-behind and project model "improvements" in ASP.NET 2.0).
It''s the little things that make you scratch your head and make you waste
hours of time trying to figure what YOU''RE doing wrong... when it''s just
that the tool you''re using is in need of an IMMEDIATE patch cycle.

推荐答案

有一种情况，背景颜色不是'显示为已配置，

因此Microsoft列出了另一种设置背景颜色的方法。这听起来很像我的工作。

当然VS并不完美，但是什么？它比以往任何时候都好得多，而且它是我用过的最好的网络开发工具。

智能感知现在似乎无处不在VS2005中 - 当你发现一些它仍然不存在的地方时，它已经停留在你身上了。

。我赞赏微软迄今所做的努力，并热切期待未来更好的
版本。


-

我希望这会有所帮助，

Steve C. Orr，MCSD，MVP
http： //SteveOrr.net

" CMM" < cm*@nospam.com>在留言中写道

新闻：e3 ************** @ TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl ...

There is a case where the background color isn''t displaying as configured,
so Microsoft listed another way to set the background color. That sounds
like a work around to me.
Sure VS isn''t perfect, but what is? It''s far better than its ever been, and
its the best all around web development tool I''ve used.
Intellisense is seemingly everywhere in VS2005 now - so much that it stuck
out to you when you discovered a couple spots where it still doesn''t exist
yet. I applaud Microsoft''s efforts to date and eagerly await future
versions that are even better.

--
I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP
http://SteveOrr.net
"CMM" <cm*@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:e3**************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

我很失望VS2005。 小事它的错误只是令人难以置信。男孩，如果我不得不等待一年的.1
版本来修复这个明显的测试版产品中的所有错误，我会非常生气。

这个（收到）今天）只是为什么ASP.NET 2.0
完全没有准备好黄金时间的众多例子之一。
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_911717.aspx 变通方法他们引用
并不是一个解决方法。他们实际上在说......不要用它。这对CSS类的处理很糟糕（任何地方都没有样式类的下拉菜单......
所有东西都必须从内存中手动输入）......它正在处理全球化通过资源很糟糕（Global_Resource并没有出现在任何下拉中，也没有出现它的键）。

这是小事情。那件事。不是大锤子和框架
（就像ASP.NET
2.0中的所有代码隐藏和项目模型改进）。这是让你刮伤头脑的小事，让你花费数小时的时间来弄清楚你做错了什么......当它只是那个工具的时候你正在使用需要一个IMMEDIATE补丁周期。

I am so disappointed in VS2005. The "little things" wrong with it are just
mind-boggling. Boy, I''ll be so mad if I have to wait a year for the ".1"
release that fixes all the bugs in this obvious beta product.

This (received today) is just one of the many examples of why ASP.NET 2.0
was totally not ready for prime time.
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_911717.aspx The "workaround" they cite
isn''t a workaround AT ALL. They''re actually saying... "don''t use it." It''s
handling of CSS classes sucks (no dropdown for style classes anywhere...
everything has to be inputted manually from memory)... it''s handling of
globalization via resources sucks (Global_Resource doesn''t appear in any
drop downs and neither does its keys).

It''s the "little things" that matter. Not the big hammers and frameworks
(like all the code-behind and project model "improvements" in ASP.NET
2.0). It''s the little things that make you scratch your head and make you
waste hours of time trying to figure what YOU''RE doing wrong... when it''s
just that the tool you''re using is in need of an IMMEDIATE patch cycle.

我同意史蒂夫。 VS 2005比以前的版本好得多，以及任何其他开发工具的b $ b。我注意到很多人宁愿把注意力集中在任何软件所拥有的一些错误上，而不是那些让我们生活更轻松的大量功能和改进。


谢谢，


J

" Steve C. Orr [MVP，MCSD]" <圣*** @ Orr.net>在留言中写道

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I agree with Steve. VS 2005 is much better than previous versions as well
as any other dev tool. I notice that many would rather focus on the few
bugs, which any software has, than the vast features and improvements that
make our lives easier.

Thanks,

J
"Steve C. Orr [MVP, MCSD]" <St***@Orr.net> wrote in message
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有一种情况背景颜色没有按照配置显示，因此Microsoft列出了另一种设置背景颜色的方法。这听起来像是对我的一种解决方法。
当然VS并不完美，但它是什么？它比以往任何时候都要好得多，它是我用过的最好的网络开发工具。
现在，智能感知在VS2005中似乎无处不在 - 太多以至于卡住了>当你发现一些它仍然不存在的地方时，你会发现它。我赞赏微软迄今为止的努力，并热切期待更好的未来版本。

-
我希望这会有所帮助，
Steve C. Orr ，MCSD，MVP
http://SteveOrr.net

CMM < cm*@nospam.com>在消息中写道
新闻：e3 ************** @ TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl ...

There is a case where the background color isn''t displaying as configured,
so Microsoft listed another way to set the background color. That sounds
like a work around to me.
Sure VS isn''t perfect, but what is? It''s far better than its ever been,
and its the best all around web development tool I''ve used.
Intellisense is seemingly everywhere in VS2005 now - so much that it stuck
out to you when you discovered a couple spots where it still doesn''t exist
yet. I applaud Microsoft''s efforts to date and eagerly await future
versions that are even better.

--
I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP
http://SteveOrr.net
"CMM" <cm*@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:e3**************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

我对VS2005非常失望。 小事它的错误只是令人难以置信。男孩，如果我不得不等待一年的.1
版本来修复这个明显的测试版产品中的所有错误，我会非常生气。

这个（收到）今天）只是为什么ASP.NET 2.0
完全没有准备好黄金时间的众多例子之一。
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_911717.aspx 变通方法他们引用
并不是一个解决方法。他们实际上在说......不要用它。
它对CSS课程的处理很糟糕（没有任何样式课的下拉菜单......一切都必须从内存中手动输入... ...它通过资源处理全球化（Global_Resource不会出现在任何下拉中，也不会出现在其中）。
<这是小事那件事。不是大锤子和框架
（就像ASP.NET
2.0中的所有代码隐藏和项目模型改进）。这是让你刮伤头脑的小事，让你花费数小时的时间来弄清楚你做错了什么......当它只是那个工具的时候你正在使用它需要一个IMMEDIATE补丁周期。

I am so disappointed in VS2005. The "little things" wrong with it are just
mind-boggling. Boy, I''ll be so mad if I have to wait a year for the ".1"
release that fixes all the bugs in this obvious beta product.

This (received today) is just one of the many examples of why ASP.NET 2.0
was totally not ready for prime time.
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_911717.aspx The "workaround" they cite
isn''t a workaround AT ALL. They''re actually saying... "don''t use it."
It''s handling of CSS classes sucks (no dropdown for style classes
anywhere... everything has to be inputted manually from memory)... it''s
handling of globalization via resources sucks (Global_Resource doesn''t
appear in any drop downs and neither does its keys).

It''s the "little things" that matter. Not the big hammers and frameworks
(like all the code-behind and project model "improvements" in ASP.NET
2.0). It''s the little things that make you scratch your head and make you
waste hours of time trying to figure what YOU''RE doing wrong... when it''s
just that the tool you''re using is in need of an IMMEDIATE patch cycle.

总有一些东西比没有。对？我同意这一点。


但是，我不是像你这样的MVP中的很多（全部？）的道歉者。我喜欢Visual

Studio和.NET。如果我没有，我就不会用它。但是，我不会坐在这里，说Visual Studio 2005辜负了HYPE ...或者说我想要的东西更多* * b $ b来自一家公司的抛光*

微软的资源及其开发资源....

你说你急切等待未来更好的版本。 ;好吧，

除非你说出来，否则你将会超过一年并且他们会让你支付

支付它....同时他们可能会迫使你不得不重构你的代码以获得良好的衡量标准。这样你就可以得到一个愚蠢的小虫子

修复它不应该在那里开始。


VS2003非常完美。可能是因为它是一个补丁。

VS2002。 VS2005加强了旧的微软刻板印象，他们从来没有得到它（甚至接近）它的第一个x.0版本。


P.S.我不是在谈论Intellisense。我在谈论物业

编辑。 CssClass属性的行为就像它不知道你的页面是链接到样式表的
。用于选择本地化字符串的

表达式编辑器中的资源名称/资源键字段就像你在App_GlobalResources中没有一整套资源文件一样（我知道）它更好用

页面的页面资源文件...但这不是一个原因...那是一个

缺陷。）


实际上后者涉及的对话框实际上是BUG-RIDDEN。在你输入东西并返回后，

，voila下拉工作就像你期望的那样。改变一些东西，然后尝试点击OK ...呵呵OK被禁用了？

发生了什么事？花几分钟使用表达式编辑器进行

本地化，你知道我的意思。

Something is always better than nothing. Right? I agree with that.

But, I''m not an apologist like a lot (all?) of you "MVP''s." I love Visual
Studio and .NET in general. I wouldn''t be using it if I didn''t. But, I''m not
going to sit here and say that Visual Studio 2005 lives up to the HYPE... or
that I expected something a little more *polished* from a company with
Microsoft''s resources and their development resources....
You say you "eagerly await future versions that are even better." Well,
unless you speak up, it''ll be over a year before you do and they''ll make you
pay for it.... and at the same time they''ll probably force you to have to
refactor your code for good measure. Just so you can get a stupid little bug
fix that shouldn''t have been there to begin with.

VS2003 was extremely well-polished. Probably because it was a "patch" of
VS2002. VS2005 REINFORCES the old Microsoft stereotype that they NEVER get
it (even close to) right the first x.0 release.

P.S. I wasn''t talking about Intellisense. I was talking about the Property
Editor. The CssClass property behaves like it doesn''t know your page is
linked to a Stylesheet. The Resource Name / Resource Key field in the
Expressions editor for choosing localized strings acts like you don''t have a
whole stack of resource files in App_GlobalResources (I know it works better
with Page by Page resource files... but that''s not a reason... that''s a
flaw).

In fact the dialog box involved in the latter is actually BUG-RIDDEN. As
after you enter stuff once into it and go back, voila drop-down works as
you''d expect. Change something and try to click OK... "huh OK is disabled?
What''s going on?" Spend a few minutes using the Expressions editor for
localization and you''d know what I mean.

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