生产数据库服务器的Gentoo？ [英] Gentoo for production DB server?

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您好：


冒着开始火焰战争的风险，我想了解更多有关使用Gentoo Linux的

的详细信息一个生产PostgreSQL服务器。最近有几条评论说这不是一个好主意;确定

任何人都有他们愿意分享的具体经验吗？


一些背景：我们一直在各种版本的
红帽几年了。 RedHat Enterprise不是一个选项，所以我们

目前混合使用Fedora，RH 9，White Box Enterprise（一个RedHat

克隆）和Gentoo，并希望定居在一个单独的发行版上，白色

Box和Gentoo是主要的竞争者。硬件主要是戴尔PowerEdge

或白盒子。我更喜欢从源代码构建PostgreSQL，所以

包管理并不像稳定性和易于维护/更新那样重要。我读过的大部分内容都说Gentoo要么是自切片面包以来最好的东西，要么是没有为黄金时间做好准备;在

的情况下，细节都是粗略的。我想特别听听

那些在生产中运行Gentoo或者已经尝试过的人，并且b $ b拒绝了它。


谢谢。


Christine Desmuke

堪萨斯州历史学会

cdesmuke（at）kshs（dot）org


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Hello:

At the risk of starting a flame-war, I''d like some more details on the
use of Gentoo Linux for a production PostgreSQL server. There have been
a couple of comments lately that it is not such a great idea; does
anyone have specific experience they''d be willing to share?

Some background: we''ve been running PostgreSQL on assorted versions of
Red Hat for a couple of years. RedHat Enterprise is not an option, so we
currently have a mix of Fedora, RH 9, White Box Enterprise (a RedHat
clone), and Gentoo, and want to settle on a single distro, with White
Box and Gentoo the leading contenders. Hardware is mostly Dell PowerEdge
or white-box. I prefer to build PostgreSQL from source anyway, so
package management is not as important as stability and ease of
maintenance/updates. Most of what I''ve read says that Gentoo is either
the greatest thing since sliced bread or not ready for primetime; in
either case, details are sketchy. I would like to hear especially from
people who are either running Gentoo in production or have tried and
rejected it.

Thank you.

Christine Desmuke
Kansas State Historical Society
cdesmuke (at) kshs (dot) org

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星期二，2004-08-24 16:33，Christine Desmuke写道：

On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 16:33, Christine Desmuke wrote:

冒着开始火焰战争的风险，我想了解更多关于Gentoo Linux用于生产PostgreSQL服务器的细节。最近有几条评论认为这不是一个好主意;有没有人有他们愿意分享的具体经验？

At the risk of starting a flame-war, I''d like some more details on the
use of Gentoo Linux for a production PostgreSQL server. There have been
a couple of comments lately that it is not such a great idea; does
anyone have specific experience they''d be willing to share?

我在家庭系统上长时间使用Gentoo但我最近退出了。


这是一个有趣的东西。至于选项和所有的发行版，并且它有一个很棒的

用户社区支持..但我厌倦了Gentoo开发人员

（无论是否有意）推出标记为稳定的新东西

，但显然不是。价格是正确的，我知道进入我

并没有得到一个完美稳定的发行版，但是他们多次离开我的机器坏了我的b $ b。稍微快一点的b $ b机器对我个人来说不值得头疼。


为了稳定性，db / web服务器的使用等，我''和Debian一起去。

对于功能，桌面系统等，我会选择Suse。 9.1是

令人印象深刻。

对于安全性，防火墙或路由器的使用，我会选择* BSD。

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Greg Donald

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I used Gentoo for a long time on my home systems but I recently quit.

It''s a "fun" distro as far as the options and all, and it has a great
user community for support.. but I got tired of the Gentoo developers
(whether intentional or not) pushing out new stuff marked as "stable"
when it obviously was not. The price was right and I knew going in I
wasn''t getting a perfectly stable distro, but nevertheless they left me
with a broken machine on several occasions. Having a slightly faster
machine isn''t worth the headaches to me personally.

For stability, db/web server usage and such, I''d go with Debian.
For features, desktop systems, etc., I''d go with Suse. 9.1 is
impressive.
For security, firewall, or router usage, I''d go with *BSD.
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我对我的gentoo盒非常满意。经过多年的Slackware

狂热之后，我在过去一年左右的时间内从

Slackware切换。关于使用Gentoo我没什么不好说的。

个人不会使用portage / ebuild为PostgreSQL。就个人而言，当我下载源代码tarball时，我总是有更好的体验。

像开发者分发它们一样安装像PostgreSQL这样的东西。


Gavin


格雷格唐纳德写道：

I''ve been extremely happy with my gentoo boxes. I switched from
Slackware over the past year or so after many years of Slackware
zealotry. I have nothing bad to say about using Gentoo other than I
personally wouldnt use portage/ebuilds for PostgreSQL. Personally I
always have better experiences when I download the source tarball and
install things like PostgreSQL the way the developers distribute them.

Gavin

Greg Donald wrote:

2004年4月24日星期二16:33，Christine Desmuke写道：

On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 16:33, Christine Desmuke wrote:

冒着开始火焰战的风险，我想了解更多有关Gentoo Linux用于生产PostgreSQL服务器的细节。最近有几条评论认为这不是一个好主意;是否有任何人有他们愿意分享的特定经验？

At the risk of starting a flame-war, I''d like some more details on the
use of Gentoo Linux for a production PostgreSQL server. There have been
a couple of comments lately that it is not such a great idea; does
anyone have specific experience they''d be willing to share?

我在家庭系统上使用Gentoo很长时间但我最近退出了。

这是一个有趣的东西。发行版和所有选项，它有一个很好的用户社区支持..但我厌倦了Gentoo开发人员
（无论是否有意）推出标记为稳定的
当它显然不是。价格是正确的，我知道进入我没有得到一个完美稳定的发行版，但尽管如此，他们多次离开我的机器坏了。拥有一台稍快的机器并不值得我个人头疼。

为了稳定性，db / web服务器的使用等等，我会选择Debian。
对于功能，桌面系统等，我会选择Suse。 9.1令人印象深刻。
对于安全性，防火墙或路由器的使用，我会选择* BSD。

I used Gentoo for a long time on my home systems but I recently quit.

It''s a "fun" distro as far as the options and all, and it has a great
user community for support.. but I got tired of the Gentoo developers
(whether intentional or not) pushing out new stuff marked as "stable"
when it obviously was not. The price was right and I knew going in I
wasn''t getting a perfectly stable distro, but nevertheless they left me
with a broken machine on several occasions. Having a slightly faster
machine isn''t worth the headaches to me personally.

For stability, db/web server usage and such, I''d go with Debian.
For features, desktop systems, etc., I''d go with Suse. 9.1 is
impressive.
For security, firewall, or router usage, I''d go with *BSD.

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Christine Desmuke写道：

Christine Desmuke wrote:

冒着开始火焰战的风险，我想了解更多有关
将Gentoo Linux用于生产PostgreSQL服务器。最近有几条评论认为这不是一个好主意;是否有任何人有他们愿意分享的特定经验？

At the risk of starting a flame-war, I''d like some more details on the
use of Gentoo Linux for a production PostgreSQL server. There have been
a couple of comments lately that it is not such a great idea; does
anyone have specific experience they''d be willing to share?

我们直到最近才在生产服务器上使用Gentoo，并且仍在使用
某些开发机器上的
。我从来没有遇到过这个问题，如果你知道自己在做什么，那么
会推荐它。只有升级套餐

当你真的需要的时候，不要出现-u world / system，最好是

在精确镜像上执行更新，测试好，然后切换服务器，

并同步。

如果您善待它，Gentoo会善待您。

我们现在已经切换到RHEL3 （管理决策 - 支持！），

恕我直言，这是管理员的噩梦（但这只是RPM'给你）。

我们不得不下载并编译几个手动重要的包，

提供的PostgreSQL已经过时了，PHP甚至没有
内置了PostgreSQL支持。

你也没有必要安装大量未使用的垃圾，比如X11。


如果您没有掌握管理费用，那么

运营系统支持，你知道你的Linux系统的方式

没有鼠标，然后我会衷心推荐Gentoo。


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Mark Gibs在< gibsonm | AT |克伦威尔| DOT | co | DOT | uk>

Web Developer&数据库管理员

克伦威尔工具有限公司

英格兰莱斯特。


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We were using Gentoo until recently on production servers, and still do
on some development machines. I''ve never had a problem with it, and
would recommend it if you know what you''re doing; only upgrade packages
when you really need to, don''t do emerge -u world/system, preferably
perform updates on an exact mirror, test well, then switch servers,
and sync up.
If you treat it kindly, Gentoo will treat you kindly.
We''ve now switched to RHEL3 (management decision - for support!),
which IMHO is an admin nightmare (but thats just RPM''s for you).
We had to download and compile several important packages manually,
the supplied PostgreSQL was very out of date, and PHP didn''t even
have PostgreSQL support builtin.
You also don''t have to install tons of unused crap, like X11.

Provided you don''t have management breathing down your neck about
operating system support, and you know your way around a Linux system
without a mouse, then I''d heartly recommend Gentoo.

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Mark Gibson <gibsonm |AT| cromwell |DOT| co |DOT| uk>
Web Developer & Database Admin
Cromwell Tools Ltd.
Leicester, England.

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