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问题描述
强烈的偏离主题VB6 / VB.Net线程Treeview.Net中的密钥在哪里
（2004年12月2日开始并在太阳下交叉发布到每个VB组）真的
让我思考。
这个想法让我打字：
http://www.smithvoice.com/C1swf.htm
2005年一切顺利，希望今年的Visual Basic发布
将更多地符合VB核心的喜好。
Robert Smith
柯克兰，华盛顿州
www.smithvoice .com
The intense off-topic VB6/VB.Net thread "Where is the Key in Treeview.Net"
(started Dec 2 2004 and cross-posted to every VB group under the sun) really
got me to thinking.
And that thinking got me to typing this:
http://www.smithvoice.com/C1swf.htm
All the best in 2005 and here''s hoping that this year''s Visual Basic release
will be more to the VB core''s liking.
Robert Smith
Kirkland, WA
www.smithvoice.com
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激烈的偏离主题的VB6 / VB.Net线程Treeview.Net中的Key在哪里
（2004年12月2日开始并在太阳下交叉发布给每个VB组）
让我思考。
那个想法让我输入这个：
http://www.smithvoice.com/C1swf.htm
The intense off-topic VB6/VB.Net thread "Where is the Key in Treeview.Net"
(started Dec 2 2004 and cross-posted to every VB group under the sun)
really got me to thinking.
And that thinking got me to typing this:
http://www.smithvoice.com/C1swf.htm
" with .Net VB got什么大多数人都说他们想要
我只能说......我不记得有人说他们想要
重新编写他们刚刚发现的每个臭臭的应用程序，这样他们就可以说它正在运行
..Net。不记得有人说控制阵列不方便所以
摆脱它们。不记得有人说Tree / ListViews太棒了/ b $ b方便所以让我们通过移除Key来搞砸它们。
就像我说的那样现在已经打了十几次，我工作的公司的代码是'*
已经运行了*年*。重写那将是自杀。我们需要
来支付我们的测试工程师和第三方测试工程师加上几个月和
个月的文档更改，并将所有内容重新分配到我们的
客户（并解释为什么现在一切都需要更长时间）并说服他们
......不，没有变化，我们只是重写了世界。所以我们可以
说我们正在使用.Net ...
然后，毫无疑问，从现在开始几年，当.Next到来出来，再次从头开始
。那简直太傻了。
" 1）RAD。如果你想要的话，高级对象界面能够获得更好的控制和更深层次的控制
没有更多的RAD比VB5 / 6。几乎单独的控制阵列支持
使得该声明本身就是真实的。
C＃是什么？对我来说，它只不过是一个营销手段
实际上，B＃是市场化的伎俩。 MS在内部没有使用B＃来代替
。声称完全使用.Net编写的所有第三方供应商
a使用C＃在同一页面的某处标记...零第三方供应商承认
甚至触及B＃。
MS没有人愿意承认使用VB（在这里插入版本）
all ...自B＃发布以来没有任何变化。
-
Ken Halter - MS-MVP-VB - http://www.vbsight.com
请保持小组中的所有讨论..
"With .Net VB got what most everyone said that they wanted"
All I have to say is.... I can''t recall anyone saying that they wanted to
re-write every stinking app they have just so they can say "it''s running in
..Net". Can''t recall anyone saying that control arrays were inconvenient so
get rid of them. Can''t recall anyone saying that Tree/ListViews are too
convenient so lets muck them up by removing the Key.
Like I''ve said 10 dozen times now, the company I work for has code that''s
been running great for *years*. To re-write that would be suicide. We''d have
to pay our test engineers plus the 3rd party test engineers plus months and
months of documentation changes plus redistribute everything to our
customers (and explain why everything takes longer now) and convince them
that.... no, there are no changes, we just re-wrote "the world" so we could
say we''re using .Net...
Then, no doubt, a couple of years from now, when .Next comes out, start over
from scratch again. That''s just plain silly.
"1) RAD. High level object interfaces with the ability to get finer and
deeper control if you want it"
There is nothing more "RAD" than VB5/6. Control Array support alone almost
makes that statement true by itself.
"What of C#? To me, it''s little more than a marketing trick"
Actually, B#''s the marketting trick. MS doesn''t use B# for anything
internally. All 3rd party vendors that claim "written entirely in .Net" have
a "using C#" tag somewhere on the same page... zero 3rd party vendors admit
to even touching B#.
No one at MS wants to admit to using VB(insert version here) for anything at
all... nothing has changed since B#''s release.
--
Ken Halter - MS-MVP-VB - http://www.vbsight.com
Please keep all discussions in the groups..
2005年1月19日星期三10:14:43 -0800，Ken Halter
< Ken_Halter@Use_Sparingly_Hotmail.com>写道：
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:14:43 -0800, "Ken Halter"
<Ken_Halter@Use_Sparingly_Hotmail.com> wrote:
" smith" < RC ******** @ smithvoiceTAKEOUT.com>在消息中写道
新闻：Jp **************** @ newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net ...
"smith" <rc********@smithvoiceTAKEOUT.com> wrote in message
news:Jp****************@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
激烈的偏离主题的VB6 / VB.Net线程Treeview.Net中的密钥在哪里
（2004年12月2日开始并在太阳下交叉发布给每个VB组）
真让我思考。
那个想法让我输入这个：
http://www.smithvoice.com/C1swf.htm
The intense off-topic VB6/VB.Net thread "Where is the Key in Treeview.Net"
(started Dec 2 2004 and cross-posted to every VB group under the sun)
really got me to thinking.
And that thinking got me to typing this:
http://www.smithvoice.com/C1swf.htm
.Net VB得到了大多数人都说他们想要的东西
所有我要说的是....我不记得有人说他们想重新编写他们所拥有的每一个臭的应用程序，以便他们可以说它在.Net中运行。不记得有人说控制阵列不方便所以要摆脱它们。不记得有人说Tree / ListViews太方便了，所以让我们把钥匙弄干了。
就像我已经说了十几次了，公司我有效的代码已经运行了*年*。重写那将是自杀。我们将支付我们的测试工程师和第三方测试工程师以及数月和/或数月的文档更改，并将所有内容重新分发给我们的客户（并解释为什么现在所有内容都需要更长时间）并说服他们......不，没有变化，我们只是重写了世界。所以我们可以说我们正在使用.Net ......
然后，毫无疑问，从现在起几年后，当.Next问世，重新开始
从头开始。那简直太傻了。
1）RAD。如果你想要的话，高级对象接口能够更精细和更深入地控制
没有更多的RAD比VB5 / 6。仅控制阵列支持几乎可以使该声明成为现实。
C＃是什么？对我来说，这只不过是一个营销手段
实际上，B＃是市场化的伎俩。 MS在内部没有使用B＃做任何事情。声称完全使用.Net编写的所有第三方供应商有一个使用C＃在同一页面的某个地方标记...零第三方供应商承认甚至触摸B＃。
MS的任何人都不愿意承认使用VB（此处插入版本）来处理任何事情。所有......自B＃发布以来没有任何改变。
"With .Net VB got what most everyone said that they wanted"
All I have to say is.... I can''t recall anyone saying that they wanted to
re-write every stinking app they have just so they can say "it''s running in
.Net". Can''t recall anyone saying that control arrays were inconvenient so
get rid of them. Can''t recall anyone saying that Tree/ListViews are too
convenient so lets muck them up by removing the Key.
Like I''ve said 10 dozen times now, the company I work for has code that''s
been running great for *years*. To re-write that would be suicide. We''d have
to pay our test engineers plus the 3rd party test engineers plus months and
months of documentation changes plus redistribute everything to our
customers (and explain why everything takes longer now) and convince them
that.... no, there are no changes, we just re-wrote "the world" so we could
say we''re using .Net...
Then, no doubt, a couple of years from now, when .Next comes out, start over
from scratch again. That''s just plain silly.
"1) RAD. High level object interfaces with the ability to get finer and
deeper control if you want it"
There is nothing more "RAD" than VB5/6. Control Array support alone almost
makes that statement true by itself.
"What of C#? To me, it''s little more than a marketing trick"
Actually, B#''s the marketting trick. MS doesn''t use B# for anything
internally. All 3rd party vendors that claim "written entirely in .Net" have
a "using C#" tag somewhere on the same page... zero 3rd party vendors admit
to even touching B#.
No one at MS wants to admit to using VB(insert version here) for anything at
all... nothing has changed since B#''s release.
是的，很明显罗伯特没有得到它。
*它*是关于信任以及我们不能再信任MS的事实
在创建
时考虑现有源代码资产的价值发布任何他们没有投入任何语言资源的语言。这真的很简单。
我什么也看不见VB核心 _ever_获得该计划鉴于此
对MS缺乏信任。
HTH，
布莱恩
__________________________________________________ __________
新视觉软件当事情变得奇怪时，
布莱恩斯塔福德奇怪的转弯专业人士。
al ** ****************@mvps.org Hunter S. Thompson -
Microsoft MVP-Visual Basic对LasVegas的恐惧和厌恶
__________________________________________________ __________
新视觉软件当事情变得奇怪时，
布莱恩斯塔福德奇怪的转弯专业人士。
al******************@mvps.org Hunter S. Thompson -
Microsoft MVP-Visual Basic对LasVegas的恐惧和厌恶
Ken，
" Ken Halter" < Ken_Halter@Use_Sparingly_Hotmail.com> schrieb：
Ken,
"Ken Halter" <Ken_Halter@Use_Sparingly_Hotmail.com> schrieb:
实际上，B＃是市场化的伎俩。 MS在内部没有使用B＃。
Actually, B#''s the marketting trick. MS doesn''t use B# for anything
internally.
错误。
< URL：http ：//blogs.msdn.com/somasegar/archive/2004/08/01/204540.aspx>：
|我们的内部系统通常用VB6编写，并且
|现在正在用VB.NET编写。
-
MS Herfried K. Wagner
MVP< URL：http ：//dotnet.mvps.org/>
VB< URL：http：//dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>
Wrong.
<URL:http://blogs.msdn.com/somasegar/archive/2004/08/01/204540.aspx>:
| our internal systems have typically been written in VB6, and
| now are being written in VB.NET.
--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>
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