哦，请哦，请你好好的 [英] Oh please oh please oh pleeeease
问题描述
我希望有人可以帮助我。我是一名需要开发自动化数据库的研究人员，想看看这里是否有人愿意考虑为我建立一个简单的网站。我是
当然不期待免费赠品，如果你有兴趣，我会付钱的。
这是项目的大纲：
这将是一个网站，从封闭的eBay拍卖中提取记录
并将它们存储在预定义的类别中。数据将按关键字格式化为
。例如，如果我们在ebay的鞋子类别中将所有拍卖超过一年的
课程，我可以要求
编程将它们放在鞋子颜色黑色，蓝色和棕色和
忽略在
拍卖标题中没有这些关键字的所有其他拍卖。然后我会在我的网站上有一个鞋子拍卖数据库
每天都会增长，并且每种颜色的鞋子都有一个链接。
一张图片值得一千个字 - 这里是布局的流程图
和我想到的功能：
http://www.dirtyoldbooks.com/temp/sample1.jpg ，假设您点击
blue shoes链接，
http：//www.dirtyoldbooks。 com / temp / sample2.jpg 点击任何这些
链接然后拉出旧的拍卖，存储在我的网站上（未链接
到ebay当然）。
我可以通过添加一个搜索功能，一个
计数器来存储记录的总记录和一种删除记录的方法来预见它被这两只蜘蛛无关紧要的蜘蛛抓住了
我正在寻找的程度。
我可以通过脏旧书中的rasiel与我联系，但我会跟着
这个帖子以防万一我在这个问题上等待这个问题
这个NG。
很多谢谢，
Ras
I''m hoping someone can help me out. I''m a researcher in need of
developing an automated database and would like to see if someone here
is willing to consider putting together for me a simple website. I''m
not expecting a freebie of course, I''ll pay if you''re interested.
This is the outline of the project:
This would be a website that pulls records from closed eBay auctions
and stores them in predefined categories. The data would be formatted
by keyword. For example, if we were to pull all auctions over the
course of a year in ebay''s categories for shoes I could ask that the
programming place them based on shoe colors black, blue and brown and
ignore all other auctions that do not have those keywords in the
auction title. I would then have on my site a database of shoe auctions
that grows each day and a link for each of the three colors of shoes.
A picture is worth a thousand words - here''s a flowchart of the layout
and functionality I have in mind:
http://www.dirtyoldbooks.com/temp/sample1.jpg and, assume you click the
blue shoes link,
http://www.dirtyoldbooks.com/temp/sample2.jpg clicking on any of those
links would then pull up the old auction, stored on my site (not linked
to ebay of course).
I could foresee fancying it up a bit by adding a search function, a
counter for total records stored and a way to delete records caught by
the spider that are irrelevant but that''s pretty much the extent of
what I''m looking for.
I can be reached at rasiel at dirty old books dot com but I''ll follow
the thread in case I''m waaaay out of line asking for this sort of thing
on this NG.
Many thanks,
Ras
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ra **** @ dirtyoldbooks.com 写道：
我希望有人可以帮助我。我是一名需要开发自动化数据库的研究人员，想看看这里是否有人愿意考虑为我建立一个简单的网站。我是
当然不期待免费赠品，如果你有兴趣，我会付钱的。
这是项目的大纲：
这将是一个网站，从封闭的eBay拍卖中提取记录
并将它们存储在预定义的类别中。数据将按关键字格式化为
。例如，如果我们在ebay的鞋子类别中将所有拍卖超过一年的
课程，我可以要求
编程将它们放在鞋子颜色黑色，蓝色和棕色和
忽略在
拍卖标题中没有这些关键字的所有其他拍卖。然后我会在我的网站上有一个鞋子拍卖数据库
每天都会增长，并且每种颜色的鞋子都有一个链接。
一张图片值得一千个字 - 这里是布局的流程图
和我想到的功能：
http://www.dirtyoldbooks.com/temp/sample1.jpg ，假设您点击
blue shoes链接，
http：//www.dirtyoldbooks。 com / temp / sample2.jpg 点击任何这些
链接然后拉出旧的拍卖，存储在我的网站上（未链接
到ebay当然）。
我可以通过添加一个搜索功能，一个
计数器来存储记录的总记录和一种删除记录的方法来预见它这个蜘蛛是无关紧要的，但这几乎是不相关的
我正在寻找的范围。
我可以通过脏旧书中的rasiel与我联系，但我会跟着
这个帖子以防万一我在这个问题上等待这个问题
这个NG。
很多谢谢，
Ras
I''m hoping someone can help me out. I''m a researcher in need of
developing an automated database and would like to see if someone here
is willing to consider putting together for me a simple website. I''m
not expecting a freebie of course, I''ll pay if you''re interested.
This is the outline of the project:
This would be a website that pulls records from closed eBay auctions
and stores them in predefined categories. The data would be formatted
by keyword. For example, if we were to pull all auctions over the
course of a year in ebay''s categories for shoes I could ask that the
programming place them based on shoe colors black, blue and brown and
ignore all other auctions that do not have those keywords in the
auction title. I would then have on my site a database of shoe auctions
that grows each day and a link for each of the three colors of shoes.
A picture is worth a thousand words - here''s a flowchart of the layout
and functionality I have in mind:
http://www.dirtyoldbooks.com/temp/sample1.jpg and, assume you click the
blue shoes link,
http://www.dirtyoldbooks.com/temp/sample2.jpg clicking on any of those
links would then pull up the old auction, stored on my site (not linked
to ebay of course).
I could foresee fancying it up a bit by adding a search function, a
counter for total records stored and a way to delete records caught by
the spider that are irrelevant but that''s pretty much the extent of
what I''m looking for.
I can be reached at rasiel at dirty old books dot com but I''ll follow
the thread in case I''m waaaay out of line asking for this sort of thing
on this NG.
Many thanks,
Ras
Ras，
不，我不喜欢我觉得你在新闻组里问的方式不合适。
但我认为你要问的不仅仅是一个简单的网站。
例如，匹配根本不容易。
举个例子 - 如果这个列表是针对泵的话怎么办？你把
放在鞋子中吗？或机器？好的，所以你要找鞋子这个词。
但现在它列出了马鞋，就像在游戏中一样。
另外，您是否获得eBay的许可以这种方式使用他们的信息
？所有这些都是受版权保护的，如果没有他们的
权限使用它可以让你和开发人员遇到很多麻烦。
课程，如果这是有效的研究，我认为他们将非常愿意给予该许可。任何负责任的开发人员都会想要在开始之前确保这一点。
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Jerry Stuckle
JDS计算机培训公司
js ******* @ attglobal.net
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Ras,
No, I don''t think you''re way out of line asking here in the newsgroup.
But I think what you''re asking is a lot more than a "simple website".
For instance, the matching won''t at all be easy.
To take your example - what if this listing is for "pumps"? Do you put
it in "shoes" or "machinery"? OK, so you look for the word "shoes".
But now it lists "horse shoes", as in the game.
Additionally, do you have permission from EBay to use their information
in this way? All of it is copyrighted, and using it without their
permission can get you and the developer in a lot of trouble. Of
course, if this is for valid research, I would think they would be quite
willing to grant that permission. And any responsible developer would
want to ensure this is in place before starting.
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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
js*******@attglobal.net
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Jerry Stuckle写道：
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
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Ras ，
Ras,
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举个例子来看你的例子 - 如果此列表用于泵，该怎么办？你把
放在鞋子中吗？或机器？好的，所以你要找鞋子这个词。
但现在它列出了马鞋，就像在游戏中一样。
>
To take your example - what if this listing is for "pumps"? Do you put
it in "shoes" or "machinery"? OK, so you look for the word "shoes".
But now it lists "horse shoes", as in the game.
这些很容易 - 在第一种情况下逻辑会忽略
泵和那些记录被跳过，而后者数据会是
包括在内;然而，看到马鞋或类似的东西
不太可能出现在鞋子类别中数据不会被严重污染的b $ b。我只想将编程重点放在
一个ebay类别，而不是整个网站。另外，有一种方法可以手动
删除原始帖子中列出的无效条目，这将是一个用于修剪无效记录的好工具。
these would be easy - in the first case the logic would simply ignore
pumps and those records skipped while in the latter the data would be
included; however, seeing that "horse shoes" or something similar would
be unlikely to appear in the shoes category the data would not be
seriously polluted. i am only thinking of having programming focus on
one ebay category, not the entire site. also, having a way to manually
delete invalid entries as outlined in the original post would be a
great tool for trimming out invalid records.
>
此外，您是否获得eBay的许可以这种方式使用他们的信息
？所有这些都是受版权保护的，如果没有他们的
权限使用它可以让你和开发人员遇到很多麻烦。
课程，如果这是有效的研究，我认为他们将非常愿意给予该许可。任何负责任的开发人员都会想要在开始之前确保这一点。
>
Additionally, do you have permission from EBay to use their information
in this way? All of it is copyrighted, and using it without their
permission can get you and the developer in a lot of trouble. Of
course, if this is for valid research, I would think they would be quite
willing to grant that permission. And any responsible developer would
want to ensure this is in place before starting.
这是一个更大的问题，因为它是众所周知很难得到一个真实的人。在这个位置给予这样的请求。
然而，这是我私人用于编制统计数据
对于我写的一本书所以我看不出什么理由为什么有人会对b
物体。它甚至可能属于版权的合理使用条款
法律。
再次感谢杰里！
ras
this is more of a problem since it''s notoriously difficult to get a
hold of a "real live person" in a posiion to grant such a request.
however, this is meant for my private use in compiling statistics
towards a book i''m writing so i see little reason why anyone would
object. it might even fall under the ''fair use'' clause of copyright
law.
thanks again jerry!
ras
Jerry Stuckle写道：
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
ra **** @ dirtyoldbooks.com 写道：
我希望有人可以帮助我。我是一名需要开发自动化数据库的研究人员，想看看这里是否有人愿意考虑为我建立一个简单的网站。我是
当然不期待免费赠品，如果你有兴趣，我会付钱的。
这是项目的大纲：
这将是一个网站，从封闭的eBay拍卖中提取记录
并将它们存储在预定义的类别中。数据将按关键字格式化为
。例如，如果我们在ebay的鞋子类别中将所有拍卖超过一年的
课程，我可以要求
编程将它们放在鞋子颜色黑色，蓝色和棕色和
忽略在
拍卖标题中没有这些关键字的所有其他拍卖。然后我会在我的网站上有一个鞋子拍卖数据库
每天都在增长，并且每种颜色的鞋子都有一个链接。
我可以在rasiel的脏书旧书上联系我，但我会跟着
这个帖子，以防万一我不想问这种事情
在这个NG上。
I''m hoping someone can help me out. I''m a researcher in need of
developing an automated database and would like to see if someone here
is willing to consider putting together for me a simple website. I''m
not expecting a freebie of course, I''ll pay if you''re interested.
This is the outline of the project:
This would be a website that pulls records from closed eBay auctions
and stores them in predefined categories. The data would be formatted
by keyword. For example, if we were to pull all auctions over the
course of a year in ebay''s categories for shoes I could ask that the
programming place them based on shoe colors black, blue and brown and
ignore all other auctions that do not have those keywords in the
auction title. I would then have on my site a database of shoe auctions
that grows each day and a link for each of the three colors of shoes.
I can be reached at rasiel at dirty old books dot com but I''ll follow
the thread in case I''m waaaay out of line asking for this sort of thing
on this NG.
不，我认为你不会在新闻组中问这个问题。
但我认为你要问的不仅仅是一个简单的网站。
No, I don''t think you''re way out of line asking here in the newsgroup.
But I think what you''re asking is a lot more than a "simple website".
....
....
此外，您是否获得eBay的许可才能使用他们的信息
这样吗？所有这些都是受版权保护的，如果没有他们的
权限使用它可以让你和开发人员遇到很多麻烦。
Additionally, do you have permission from EBay to use their information
in this way? All of it is copyrighted, and using it without their
permission can get you and the developer in a lot of trouble.
我不是律师，但是......
不是你的意思 - >分发< - 没有他们的允许。据我所知，制作一份
副本并不违法。任何人都可以保存一个网页
而不用担心报复，除非材料
本身是非法的。
现在一个更实质性的问题（假设版权不是这里的实质性问题）可以自动访问ebay的网页。
当然我们知道狙击一直都在发生，不管ebay是否喜欢它b / b
，但是这并没有消除任何责任。
研究员。
所以问题是，研究人员可以在没有任何协议的情况下，每天通过自动化方式访问每个页面的页面。基础。我的情绪是（没有
关于实际情况），如果另一方的人不能告诉
这个差异，那么它是否有什么区别呢？ />
自动化与否？ Aren''t计算机在一定程度上都是自动化的吗？
并不是服务器自动化的缩影吗？这里有很多花盆
叫水壶黑。结束情绪。
所以我的问题可归结为以下其中一个：（1）研究员可能是（b）b $ b（无论有无协议）访问ebay'每天的页面？ （2）
研究人员可以分发结果吗？
听到实际案例对我来说真的很有意思。嗯，
让它获得实际案例报告的链接。
I''m no lawyer, but...
Don''t you mean ->distributing<- it without their permission. To make a
copy isn''t illegal, as far as I know. Anyone can save a web page
without fear of retribution as far as I''m aware, unless the material
itself is illegal.
Now a more substantial issue (on the assumption that copyright is not a
substantial issue here) is automated access to ebay''s web pages. Of
course we know that sniping happens all the time whether ebay likes it
or not, but that doesn''t remove any responsibility from the would be
researcher.
So the question is, may the researcher, without any agreement, access
ebay''s pages each day on an automated basis. My sentiment is (without
regard to actual fact) that if the person on the other side cannot tell
the difference, then what difference does it make whether it is
automated or not? Aren''t computers all automated to a certain extent?
And aren''t servers the epitome of automation? There''s a lot of pot
calling kettle black here. End of sentiment.
So the question for me boils down to one of: (1) May the researcher
(with or without agreement) access ebay''s pages on a daily basis? (2)
May the researcher distribute results?
It would be real interesting for me to hear about actual cases. Ummm,
make that get links to reports of actual cases.
当然，如果这是有效的研究，我认为他们认为将是非常愿意给予该许可的
。任何负责任的开发人员都希望在开始之前确保这一点已经到位。
Of course, if this is for valid research, I would think they would be quite
willing to grant that permission. And any responsible developer would
want to ensure this is in place before starting.
研究人员没有说明他是否正在研究他自己的b / b
改善的购买/销售经验（我认为每个人都会这样做）
在某种程度上）并且在我看来是在ebay的'b
协议的范围内，或者他是否从事学术或其他研究。 />
来自维也纳的Csaba Gabor
The researcher hasn''t indicated whether he is researching for his own
improved buying/selling experience (which I would argue everyone does
to a certain extent) and seems to me to be within the bounds of ebay''s
agreement, or whether he is engaged in academic or other research.
Csaba Gabor from Vienna
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