Microsoft是否拥有XML专利？ [英] Does Microsoft have XML patents?

问题描述

我在某处读到微软拥有数百甚至超过一万两亿美元的与XML相关的专利。


有人可以确认/否认吗？


-RFH

I read somewhere that Microsoft has hundreds or even more than a
thousand patents which are related to XML.

Can someone confirm/deny this?

-RFH

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Ramon F Herrera< ra *** @ conexus.netwrote：

In article
<dc**********************************@e10g2000prf. googlegroups.com>,
Ramon F Herrera <ra***@conexus.netwrote:

我读过微软有数百个或者甚至超过与XML相关的
千美元的专利。


有人可以确认/否认这个吗？

I read somewhere that Microsoft has hundreds or even more than a
thousand patents which are related to XML.

Can someone confirm/deny this?

如果有人在这里确认或否认你

已经阅读了什么，我会感到很惊讶！ :-)


但严重的是，我认为这取决于你所说的相关。

在PTO网站上搜索专利有微软在

受让人姓名字段和摘要中的XML中，我想出了99，但是很多

恰好指出他们使用XML来存储东西 - 那些
那些算作与XML有关吗？


无论如何，如果你想自己检查一下，并决定哪些是

相关，请到这里：


< http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html>


然后单击快速搜索，将Microsoft放在术语1，XML中，术语

2，并将字段1更改为受理人姓名，将字段2更改为摘要，并且

应该得到我得到的列表（好吧，在你点击搜索之后:-)）。


类似的搜索，但在索赔中寻找XML，返回213

专利。但是，很多时候，很多事情都归结为与XML相关的意义。例如，那里有一个与语音处理有关的电话处理费用。在声明中，XML显示为

依赖声明的一部分。让我离题解释一下专利

索赔。索赔有两种：独立索赔和依赖索赔。一个独立的声明看起来像这样：


5.一个等等等等的方法，包括yadda yadda的步骤

yadda。


它是孤立的。从属权利要求看起来像这样：


6.如权利要求5所述的方法，其中yadda的步骤由婴儿油中的Nun

完成。


一项受抚养的索赔缩小了它所依赖的索赔范围。 （顺便说一句，

依赖索赔可能依赖于先前的附属索赔，因此我们

可以进一步依赖索赔：

$ b 7.根据权利要求6所述的方法，其中所述修女为男性。


等等。


''这个语音处理专利中XML的出现方式。他们有一个

索赔。然后他们在一个从属权利要求中缩小它。然后，另一个从属索赔进一步缩小了相关的

索赔，其中涉及

可加载语法。然后，该从属权利要求进一步缩小为b $ b权利要求12的方法，其中语法是从XML文件加载的。


我不喜欢我认为我认为这个专利与XML有关。


我想不出任何好的方法来搜索只是得到那些/>
实际上是关于XML的，虽然我猜它们中的大多数都会在摘要中提到XML

，所以99的列表可能就是
的地方
开始寻找。


-

--Tim Smith

I''d be rather surprised if anyone here could confirm or deny that you
have read something! :-)

But seriously, I suppose it depends on what you mean by "related".
Doing a search at the PTO site for patents that have "Microsoft" in the
assignee name field and XML in the abstract, I come up with 99, but many
of those just happen to specify that they use XML to store something--do
those count as being related to XML?

Anyway, if you want to check those out yourself, and decide which are
related, go here:

<http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html>

then click on "Quick Search", and put Microsoft in term 1, XML in term
2, and change field 1 to assignee name and field 2 to abstract, and you
should get the list I got (well, after you hit "search" :-)).

A similar search, but looking for XML in the claims, returns 213
patents. Again, though, a lot comes down to what it means to be related
to XML. There was one there, for instance, that had to do with speech
processing for telephony. In the claims, XML shows up as part of a
dependent claim. Let me digress to explain a little bit about patent
claims. There are two kinds of claims: independent claims and dependent
claims. An independent claim looks like something like this:

5. A method for blah blah blah comprising the steps of yadda yadda
yadda.

It stands alone. A dependent claim looks something like this:

6. The method of claim 5 where the step of yadda is done by a Nun
lathered in baby oil.

A dependent claim narrows down the claim it depends on. (BTW, a
dependent claim can be dependent on an earlier dependent claim, so we
could have a further dependent claim:

7. The method of claim 6 where the Nun is a she-male.

and so on).

That''s how XML comes up in this speech processing patent. They have a
claim. Then they narrow it in a dependent claim. Then that dependent
claim is further narrowed in another dependent claim, which involves a
loadable grammar. Then, THAT dependent claim is further narrowed to
"The method of claim 12 wherein the grammar is loaded from an XML file".

I don''t think I''d count this patent as being related to XML.

I can''t think of any good way to do a search to just get ones that are
actually about XML, although I''d guess that most of those would have XML
mentioned in the abstract, so that list of 99 is probably the place to
start looking.

--
--Tim Smith

原样说：取决于你所说的相关。肯定有与XML相关的专利 - 我已经参与了IBM提交的几个b $ b b，并期望为其他人做出贡献 - 但是否

它们中的任何一个都会影响任何特定的XML应用程序，具体取决于该应用程序的确切

详细信息，就像

工程的任何其他领域一样专利可能存在的地方。


你能更具体地说明你真正想要的问题吗？

答案？

As was said: Depends on what you mean by "related". There have
certainly been XML-related patents -- I''ve been involved in several
that IBM has filed, and expect to contribute to others -- but whether
any of them affect any particular XML application depend on the exact
details of that application, just as is true in any other field of
engineering where patents may exist.

Could you be more specific about what question you''re really trying to
answer?

____ / Ramon F Herrera于2007年12月24日星期一19:13：\ ____

____/ Ramon F Herrera on Monday 24 December 2007 19:13 : \____

我在某处看到微软拥有数百甚至更多而不是与XML相关的
000专利。


有人可以确认/否认这个吗？

I read somewhere that Microsoft has hundreds or even more than a
thousand patents which are related to XML.

Can someone confirm/deny this?

微软将否认这一点，但它已经确认微软''打开''

XML，例如，是一个专利陷阱。请参见：

http://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/15/...-windows-only/


注意艺术作品的顶部。我收集了更多的例子。

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Microsoft will deny this, but it''s already confirmed that Microsoft''s ''Open''
XML, for example, is a patent trap. See here:

http://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/15/...-windows-only/

Mind the bit art the top. I''ve collected many more examples.
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