这个新闻组变得恶毒 [英] This newsgroup has become vicious
问题描述
现在这是一个令人讨厌的地方，所以我要离开这里了。
新手经常以恶意的方式攻击顶级帖子 -
这是一个完全正常的事情，在这个小b / b
group新世界微观世界之外。如果没有以正确的方式修剪报价，同样严重的殴打人们也会被给予b / b $ b也是不公平的。大喊大叫
人们阅读规则并没有成为一个论据。当您添加
一个新闻服务器并搜索javascript并找到这个地方时，没有
弹出窗口，其中包含规则。没有什么可以告诉你规则所在网站的
名称。
甚至那些用真名签名的人也是如此
几天前出现的理查德人被批评为与另一张海报同名的
。我认为报价是我们
已经有理查德。我认为那是指理查德
Cornford，我在每个帖子中都看到了他的名字，所以问题是什么。
。在你建议之前，我不是被批评的理查德，
我完全不在那个帖子里。
提供答案的人或解决方案也受到了这里更有经验的
的攻击。这是编程，很少有完美的答案。没有好的概念，会起作用。这里。你们都必须进入我的解决方案比你的解决方案更标准。你们都应用了这种不必要的复杂性。有些过分夸张的贪婪人士声称eval是邪恶的，嗅探浏览器并使用它来分支你的逻辑使你成为弱者并且/>
基本上没用的程序员，如果你的任何代码没有通过严格的验证，那么你就是一个完全白痴。同样地，大厅批评任何人的代码正在使用任何东西
弃用，或者更糟糕的是，某些东西将被弃用。 />
future。
你可能想退一步看看你在做什么。你是b $ b基本上只是混蛋极客。它会让你感觉良好吗？
This is now such a nasty place to visit so I''m quitting coming here.
Newbies are regularly attacked in a vicious way about top-posting -
which is a completely normal thing to do outside of this little
newsgroup micro-world. The equally severe beatings people are given
for not trimming quotes in the right way is also unfair. Shouting at
people to read the rules doesn''t hold up as an argument. When you add
a newsserver and search for javascript and find this place, there''s no
popup window with the rules in it. There''s nothing that tells you the
name of the website where the rules are.
Even people that sign their posts with their real name, like that
Richard person that showed up a few days ago, are criticized for
having the same name as another poster. I think the quote was "we
already have a Richard". I assume that was meant to refer to Richard
Cornford, who in each post I''ve seen signs his name in full so what''s
the problem. Before you suggest it, I''m not "the criticized Richard",
I kept well out of that thread.
The people who offer answers or solutions are also attacked by the
more experienced here. It''s programming, there''s rarely a perfect
answer. There''s no concept of "ok, that''ll work" here. You all have to
get into a "my solution is more standard than yours". You''re all
applying such an unnecessary complexity to things. There''s the overly
pedantic people who are claiming that eval is evil, that sniffing for
a browser and using that to branch your logic makes you a weak and
basically worthless programmer, and that if any of your code doesn''t
pass an strict validation then you''re a total idiot. Likewise there''s
the lobby that are criticizing anybody who''s code is using anything
deprecated, or even worse, something that will be deprecated in the
future.
You might want to step back and look at what you''re doing. You''re
basically just being asshole geeks. Does it make you feel good ?
推荐答案
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现在这是一个令人讨厌的地方，所以我要离开这里了。
This is now such a nasty place to visit so I''m quitting coming here.
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Richard。
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Richard.
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现在这是一个令人讨厌的地方，所以我要离开这里了。
This is now such a nasty place to visit so I''m quitting coming here.
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你能发布一些合理而非线噪的东西吗？
谢谢。
Can you post something sensible instead of line-noise?
Thanks.
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现在这是一个令人讨厌的地方，所以我要离开这里。
This is now such a nasty place to visit so I''m quitting coming here.
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你能发布一些合理而不是线路噪音的东西吗？
Can you post something sensible instead of line-noise?
OK。
OP在他/她的咆哮中抱怨的事情通常是由
引起的
那些对基于网络的新闻组门户网站的
漂移的usenet漂移礼仪一无所知的人比如谷歌团体和其他人。
他们来这里（阅读：通常使用usenet，不仅仅是这个群体，而且所有其他人都是
其他人），完全违反所有规则，并且当谷歌甚至想到尝试
以纠正他们的方式之前，人们已经居住了usenet网站时会变得暴躁。
他们中的大多数是飞越。他们制作一个帖子，通常是不完整的，并且b / b
模棱两可，经常难以理解，并且从未被再次听到，即使他们要求更多信息。这很烦人，本身
对任何发布谷歌
团体等事情的人产生了极低的容忍度。
他们确实坚持他们是如此受到b $ $ $ $ $ go go go go go go interface interface interface interface interface interface interface interface interface interface interface interface interface interface interface interface 。这进一步降低了容忍度。
他们经常变得傲慢，他们的语气暗示他们认为他们在讨论可能被称为b $ b的事情。谷歌团体帮助
桌面。当有人偏离主题时，他们会嗤之以鼻。我见过他们
谴责海报解决实际问题的愚蠢，而不是提供解决这个愚蠢问题的b $ b。搜索存档以获取
右键单击脚本:-)这会将容差降低到几乎为零。
我在单行中错过的是OP是从他抱怨的反应的主要原因发布的。
足够清楚了吗？
我再说一遍： http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
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Richard。
OK.
The things the OP is complaining about in his/her rant are usually caused by
people who know exactly nothing about the etiquette of usenet drifting in
from web based "newsgroup portals" such as google groups and others.
They come in here (read: usenet in general, not just this group but all the
others as well), break all the rules totally, and get cranky when the people
who have been inhabiting usenet since before google was even thought of try
to correct their ways.
Most of them are fly-bys. They make one single post, usually incomplete and
ambiguous, often incomprehensible, and are never heard from again, even when
more information is requested from them. This is annoying and in itself
engenders a very low tolerance to anybody posting from such things as google
groups.
When they do stick around they are so hampered by the stupidity of the
google groups interface that it just don''t get it, to the annoyance of those
trying to help. This lowers the tolerance further.
Often they become arrogant, their tone implying that they consider that they
are conversing with something that might be called a "google groups help
desk". They snipe when somebody drifts a little off topic. I''ve seen them
decry a poster for addressing the stupidity of the actual question, rather
than providing a solution to that stupid question. Search the archive for
right click scripts :-) This lowers the tolerance to almost zero.
What you missed in my one-liner was that the OP is posting from the very
place that is the main cause of the reactions he is complaining about.
Clear enough?
I repeat: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
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Richard.
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